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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Refer or not!
« on: February 09, 2025, 07:08:PM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2025, 07:27:PM »
Can't see JB walking down the COA steps, and ranting passionately into the microphone like Paddy Hill.

More grinning and quiet like a Cheshire cat.

I voted yes. Fuck knows why I did. But I did. I'm a gambling man.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2025, 07:28:PM by ILB »
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Re: Refer or not!
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2025, 07:38:PM »
    Voted no, hope to be wrong

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2025, 08:23:PM »
I voted yes easy decision for me it's a obvious MOJ in my view.

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2025, 08:27:PM »
Eeny, meeny, miny, mo
Like it or not, I voted for no
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and furballs.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2025, 08:32:PM »
I voted yes easy decision for me it's a obvious MOJ in my view.

The powers that be will never admit it Rob.

Which is the issue.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2025, 08:34:PM »
Although I do believe JB will one day be cleared posthumously in the same regard as Derek Bentley.

The case will over the years and especially aided by the digital age continue to gather momentum.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2025, 08:42:PM »
The powers that be will never admit it Rob.

Which is the issue.

Yes I know ILB it's sad but true, there is another famous case at the moment I wonder how long that will take to get referred?

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2025, 08:57:PM »
Yes!

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2025, 09:33:PM »
Without getting overly optimistic and forgetting the realms of having to fight tooth and nail for any perspective compensation. The moment JB walks down any COA steps he is instantly going to become a sensation and very wealthy.

The story is fascinating enough even if you believe JB to be gulity, the innocent cleared man after 40 years imprisonment or plus or whatever is a PR dream.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2025, 09:44:PM »
But I do stand by my earlier assessment that in the event of the knockback this time round it's pretty much game over for JB from a personal perspective. The guys aging in category A conditions.

Any new submissions could be a decade down the line. Look st the previous timescales.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2025, 10:10:PM »
Without getting overly optimistic and forgetting the realms of having to fight tooth and nail for any perspective compensation. The moment JB walks down any COA steps he is instantly going to become a sensation and very wealthy.

Really?  The fact you perceive it this way does not mean everyone else will!  How is he going to become very wealthy?  What's your definition of "very wealthy"? 

The story is fascinating enough even if you believe JB to be gulity, the innocent cleared man after 40 years imprisonment or plus or whatever is a PR dream.

Even if his conviction is overturned no one is going to declare him innocent.  Many will still consider him guilty.  And no one knows how the youger generations will view the case who were either not around or too young to remember.  Then there's a large immigrant population most of whom are probably unfamiliar with the case.  What role would SM play?  Would someone want to take a pop at him?  PR dream?  Or disaster?
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2025, 10:19:PM »
If we say his parents estate was 500k net, which he would have inherited had he not been convicted, this compounded by 5% over 40 years = £3,519,991.70.

Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2025, 10:44:PM »
Really?  The fact you perceive it this way does not mean everyone else will!  How is he going to become very wealthy?  What's your definition of "very wealthy"? 


Read what I said.

Book deals, tv interviews, etc etc, story exclusives. The hype would die down. But the story is fascinating.

You know this. We all perceive this.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2025, 10:46:PM »
Really?  The fact you perceive it this way does not mean everyone else will!  How is he going to become very wealthy?  What's your definition of "very wealthy"? 

Even if his conviction is overturned no one is going to declare him innocent.  Many will still consider him guilty.  And no one knows how the youger generations will view the case who were either not around or too young to remember.  Then there's a large immigrant population most of whom are probably unfamiliar with the case.  What role would SM play?  Would someone want to take a pop at him?  PR dream?  Or disaster?

Bamber will be sound, he's a strong character.

Guaranteed will probably make his relatives life difficult. In the legal sense. Private prosecution.
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