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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2011, 02:23:PM »
yes!! that black thing has always puzzled me  :)

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2011, 06:34:PM »
The shape looks like a foot, agreed; but my guess is that it is a piece of laundry that had fallen to the floor. It seems there is some laundry spread on furniture in the bedroom (+ the pantyhose on the reiling - little boy´s panyhose, I think)
 

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« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2011, 06:41:PM »
hmm not sure abs, i think the leggings are too long to belong to one of the twins.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2011, 06:47:PM »
hmm not sure abs, i think the leggings are too long to belong to one of the twins.

Maybe they are.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2011, 06:49:PM »
The murdered Bamber's seem like really nice people, especially Neville, but they should have tidied up a bit! Even my house isn't as messy as theirs!

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2011, 07:40:PM »
The murdered Bamber's seem like really nice people, especially Neville, but they should have tidied up a bit! Even my house isn't as messy as theirs!

I think they were a troubled family - not too much surplus to keep the place in perfect order. There was clearly something very wrong in that household, and it isn´t just the mess...
And I am not so sure they were so very, very nice as some make them out to have been. Both Jeremy and Sheila have talked about how strict, how extremely strict, their upbringing was. And how emotionally cold - especially from June.
Calling Sheila, the "Devil´s child", is in my opinion just mean. It is a tough thing to hear from your mother, but I bet it is much more so for an adopted child. Sheila´s condition deteriorated after this incident between her and June.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2011, 07:43:PM »
The murdered Bamber's seem like really nice people, especially Neville, but they should have tidied up a bit! Even my house isn't as messy as theirs!
That reminds me. Must tidy up the house. :(

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2011, 08:18:PM »
The murdered Bamber's seem like really nice people, especially Neville, but they should have tidied up a bit! Even my house isn't as messy as theirs!
Looks like a typical working farmhouse from that era to me, E  :)

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« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2011, 11:33:PM »
The murdered Bamber's seem like really nice people, especially Neville, but they should have tidied up a bit! Even my house isn't as messy as theirs!

I think they were a troubled family - not too much surplus to keep the place in perfect order. There was clearly something very wrong in that household, and it isn´t just the mess...
And I am not so sure they were so very, very nice as some make them out to have been. Both Jeremy and Sheila have talked about how strict, how extremely strict, their upbringing was. And how emotionally cold - especially from June.
Calling Sheila, the "Devil´s child", is in my opinion just mean. It is a tough thing to hear from your mother, but I bet it is much more so for an adopted child. Sheila´s condition deteriorated after this incident between her and June.


Good points, abs, I agree with you. +1

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2011, 11:41:PM »
I agree with Abs regarding June.No disrespect to her,but I dont think that she was "meant" to be a mother.
I agree with Bob also,that on working farms in that era,farmhouses did tend to be messy.But they had a housekeeper,so I wonder what she actually did because it doesnt look like she did much in the way of "keeping house"   ???

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2011, 04:50:PM »

This is clearly sunlight and it is strange that anyone would even question it?  Not only does it look exactly like sunlight should, there are a couple of obvious indicators such as the shadow of the red dog food bag, the grouting between tiles still visible which they wouldnt be if covered up...

The "rifle butt" is actually the shadow of the dog food bag handle, the shadow is in exact proportion to the handle.  As the angle of light is a little acute the sides of the handle shadow are a little thinner but still the same length and perspective corrected thickness in relation to each other.  The length of the shadow is exactly the same as the side of the dog food bag.  The bag is clearly in sunlight as it is brighter than the other bag and no shadows, creases or marks can be seen on its sunlit interior.  The wire basket holder behind the bag is also clearly in sunlight, you can see where the light stops and the shadow begins about halfway down the top wire behind the red bag.  Compare the colour to the opposite side of the wire basket holder which is completely in shadow and it is clear one side is lighter than the other.  Anything in light is going to cast a shadow, and sure enough there is a shadow that corresponds exactly to the items in sunslight and lies exactly where you would expect it to given the light source.

Having said all that I dont think this in any way has any significance to anything in this case.  At least I hope not because if a hypothesis requires that this not be sunlight, I'm afraid it is doomed to fail.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2011, 06:25:PM »
I agree on the sunlight interpretation after also viewing the other photograph that appears on another thread.
The photograph on this thread gives a larger sunlight patch conversant with being taken while the sun was higher in the sky and more in line with the window the sunlight passed through.
The other photograph I presume was taken earlier in the photo sequence and the sun would be in a less suitable position.  The dark part in the sunlight being shadow from part of the dog food bag handle that appeared more fully in the photograph on this thread.