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Offline mike tesko

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The Pantry or back kitchen as it was sometimes referred to, according to Jeremy...

PC Collins would have had a view into the pantry area from his vantage point outside the kitchen window, and the female body he saw was behind the internal door, which connected both adjoining rooms, that was partially open at that stage...
« Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 06:31:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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That would not surprize me Mike, because every time I
have seen a photograph of this room it has given me the "creeps".

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That would not surprize me Mike, because every time I
have seen a photograph of this room it has given me the "creeps".





Same here Summer, and this was a room not ransacked by the Police.

Was any blood found here Mike?

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That would not surprize me Mike, because every time I
have seen a photograph of this room it has given me the "creeps".





Same here Summer, and this was a room not ransacked by the Police.

Was any blood found here Mike?
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that pile of sawdust or sand on the pantry floor could have been placed there to cover up blood belonging to, or which came from Sheila...

Essex police are refusing to release any SOC investigation that was carried out in this room...

This room is directly opposite the kitchen window where PC Collins was standing at some stage, when he made the alleged sighting of the dead female behind the door, not in front of it...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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That would not surprize me Mike, because every time I
have seen a photograph of this room it has given me the "creeps".





Same here Summer, and this was a room not ransacked by the Police.

Was any blood found here Mike?
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that pile of sawdust or sand on the pantry floor could have been placed there to cover up blood belonging to, or which came from Sheila...

Essex police are refusing to release any SOC investigation that was carried out in this room...

This room is directly opposite the kitchen window where PC Collins was standing at some stage, when he made the alleged sighting of the dead female behind the door, not in front of it...




That makes sense.

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The table, washing basket, casserole dish and box, are not well placed for access into the fridge.  Is it possible these items were moved from their original place?

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That would not surprize me Mike, because every time I
have seen a photograph of this room it has given me the "creeps".

Mike, How do you know it was blood? That could have been anything from spilt milk to dog pee. May I ask what evidence you have seen that definitely proves that under this sawdust is, in fact human blood?



Same here Summer, and this was a room not ransacked by the Police.

Was any blood found here Mike?
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that pile of sawdust or sand on the pantry floor could have been placed there to cover up blood belonging to, or which came from Sheila...

Essex police are refusing to release any SOC investigation that was carried out in this room...

This room is directly opposite the kitchen window where PC Collins was standing at some stage, when he made the alleged sighting of the dead female behind the door, not in front of it...
« Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 10:39:PM by Fabio »

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Also how does anyone know for sure that in the photo of the pantry, that is definitely a rifle butt indentation? That could have been any number of objects that caused it??

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Essex police are refusing to release any SOC investigation that was carried out in this room...

How can they get away with that?

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 08:05:AM »
Also how does anyone know for sure that in the photo of the pantry, that is definitely a rifle butt indentation? That could have been any number of objects that caused it??
If it is a stone floor then I seriously doubt that a rifle butt did that?

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 08:06:AM »
Needs a good tidy up. It's worse than my place.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 09:17:AM »
The table, washing basket, casserole dish and box, are not well placed for access into the fridge.  Is it possible these items were moved from their original place?

very good observation.
it could well be the table was placed to mislead....
look at the bags of dog food and the wire basket stack by them... it makes sense that the table was previously stood over them...it appears it would fit perfectly and makes sense for teh table to be there and not where pictured.

the wash basket may also have been placed to cover something up .

« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 09:18:AM by smiffy »

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 10:55:AM »
Needs a good tidy up. It's worse than my place.

Yes the room is very untidy and not very organised but yet the table legs line up perfectly with the joins in the stone bricks, as does the washing basket, and the box and casserole dish with lid are as straight as a die, as are the cucumber and the roll of paper? on the left hand side of the table top.  I find all this precision in that particular area very strange when the rest of the place is a bit of a coup.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2011, 12:26:PM »
Needs a good tidy up. It's worse than my place.

Yes the room is very untidy and not very organised but yet the table legs line up perfectly with the joins in the stone bricks, as does the washing basket, and the box and casserole dish with lid are as straight as a die, as are the cucumber and the roll of paper? on the left hand side of the table top.  I find all this precision in that particular area very strange when the rest of the place is a bit of a coup.

hmm that cucumber nicely laid out on the table that looks to be in the wrong position as if moved ...
now if it was a whole cucumber...then I would not question it so much....but once one has been sliced open I would expect it to be kept in the fridge....so it being out on the table in that state is most odd.
Was someone preparing a meal or has it been removed from the fridge to misdirect about the tables position etc...most strange to me.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2011, 02:41:PM »
I don't think it's sawdust or anything on the floor. I think it is simply a poor quality photograph and it's morning sunshine flooding through the window, the hook shape which is suggested to be a rifle butt impression is simply something on the window sill or on a shelf casting a shadow.

That's what I think anyway.

There's also one of Mikes other suggestions, that there are two bullet casings in the photograph.
Which I also disagree with.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 03:33:PM by Hartley »