SNP corruption scandal

[ngb1066]

I think Joanna Cherry is getting a bit above herself. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UXVxvcXQApw?t=3&feature=share

Do you remember the Ken Dodd tax evasion case, defended by George Carman QC?

Some accountants are comedians, but comedians are never accountants.

Dodd was as guilty as sin.

Although I totally oppose Scottish independence I have a lot of respect for Joanna Cherry KC.  She was treated dreadfully by corrupt Nicola and her gang of acolytes.  She will now be a very dangerous foe for Sturgeon and I hope she succeeeds in her mission to expose the truth. 

I am not sure I understand the Ken Dodd reference.  I agree he was guilty of tax evasion despite his lucky acquittal.

[ngb1066]

Salmond brought himself down, by his own lascivious behaviour.

I totally disagree.  There was a wicked and corrupt conspiracy by Sturgeon, Murrell and their gang (including the "alphabetties") to destroy Alex Salmond with perjured evidence and unlawful collusion.  I really hope to ongoing attempts to uncover and expose the full truth will be successful.  Sturgeeon and her corrupt accomplices may yet find themselves in the dock where they belong. 

[Steve_uk]

I totally disagree.  There was a wicked and corrupt conspiracy by Sturgeon, Murrell and their gang (including the "alphabetties") to destroy Alex Salmond with perjured evidence and unlawful collusion.  I really hope to ongoing attempts to uncover and expose the full truth will be successful.  Sturgeeon and her corrupt accomplices may yet find themselves in the dock where they belong.

Any male professional in a position of trust knows full well not to put themself in a position where he could be compromised: a teacher would always leave the door open if having to discuss with a pupil, or more sensibly have a couple of pupils at a distance within the same classroom so as to avoid any misconstruction when talking to a pupil on a one-to-one basis.

Alex Salmond took advantage of his position as the most powerful politician in Scotland to put women in his employ where they could have felt exposed or intimidated. It's the same old story of the pretext of working late to initiate a sexual advance.

  I simply cannot believe than all ten women simply fabricated a story. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c754rel2nyno

[Steve_uk]

Although I totally oppose Scottish independence I have a lot of respect for Joanna Cherry KC.  She was treated dreadfully by corrupt Nicola and her gang of acolytes.  She will now be a very dangerous foe for Sturgeon and I hope she succeeeds in her mission to expose the truth. 

I am not sure I understand the Ken Dodd reference.  I agree he was guilty of tax evasion despite his lucky acquittal.

Well, Nicola Sturgeon was the leader of the SNP; she was not an accountant. Sir Keir Starmer does not examine the accounts of the Labour party.

[ngb1066]

Any male professional in a position of trust knows full well not to put themself in a position where he could be compromised: a teacher would always leave the door open if having to discuss with a pupil, or more sensibly have a couple of pupils at a distance within the same classroom so as to avoid any misconstruction when talking to a pupil on a one-to-one basis.

Alex Salmond took advantage of his position as the most powerful politician in Scotland to put women in his employ where they could have felt exposed or intimidated. It's the same old story of the pretext of working late to initiate a sexual advance.

  I simply cannot believe than all ten women simply fabricated a story. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c754rel2nyno

I followed the story from the outset and have kept up to date with developments.  Craig Murray in particular gave a lot of information and was imprisoned for contempt of court for his troubles. The awful trial judge Lady Dorian withheld from the jury a lot of relevant information proving the existence of a criminal conspiracy against Alex Salmond.  Despite this he was acquitted on all charges.  Perjury was proven, yet all alleged "victims" continue to have their anonymity preserved.  I believe the truth will come out eventually and you may then modify your view of the case.

It is worth watching this short clip with Craig Murray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfE2zs81OZY

[ngb1066]

Well, Nicola Sturgeon was the leader of the SNP; she was not an accountant. Sir Keir Starmer does not examine the accounts of the Labour party.

Nicola Sturgeon was one of the three people signing off the SNP accounts.  She fought tooth and nail to conceal all evidence of wrongdoing.  She attacked those complaining that they had not been given access to source documents.  She was up to her neck in it.

[Hardy Boy]

Well, Nicola Sturgeon was the leader of the SNP; she was not an accountant. Sir Keir Starmer does not examine the accounts of the Labour Party.

You keep bringing others into it Steve,  Sturgeon, as party leader, co-signed off the annual accounts.

She claimed she had no reason to question the tens of thousands of pounds spent on motor vehicles, which included the notorious campervan.

Maybe Starmer has no reason to sign off the Labour Party accounts, after all,  his wife isn’t embezzling money out of the Labour Party.

[Steve_uk]

Nicola Sturgeonwas one of the three people signing off the SNP accounts.  She fought tooth and nail to conceal all evidence of wrongdoing.  She attacked those complaining that they had not been given access to source documents.  She was up to her neck in it.

As far as I'm aware her husband had forged invoices (which would back up Nicola's story that she was ignorant of the situation) and the chartered accountants Johnstone Carmichael were also charged with authentication.

[Hardy Boy]

I followed the story from the outset and have kept up to date with developments.  Craig Murray in particular gave a lot of information and was imprisoned for contempt of court for his troubles. The awful trial judge Lady Dorian withheld from the jury a lot of relevant information proving the existence of a criminal conspiracy against Alex Salmond.  Despite this he was acquitted on all charges.  Perjury was proven, yet all alleged "victims" continue to have their anonymity preserved.  I believe the truth will come out eventually and you may then modify your view of the case.

It is worth watching this short clip with Craig Murray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfE2zs81OZY

I agree NGB, his family are still fighting to clear his name. 

[Steve_uk]

I followed the story from the outset and have kept up to date with developments.  Craig Murray in particular gave a lot of information and was imprisoned for contempt of court for his troubles. The awful trial judge Lady Dorian withheld from the jury a lot of relevant information proving the existence of a criminal conspiracy against Alex Salmond.  Despite this he was acquitted on all charges.  Perjury was proven, yet all alleged "victims" continue to have their anonymity preserved.  I believe the truth will come out eventually and you may then modify your view of the case.

It is worth watching this short clip with Craig Murray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfE2zs81OZY

Well, I'm not sure what to say. Police Scotland are independent though, not within the remit of the First Minister. As far as the trial is concerned, what did Alex Salmond mean when he stated he "could have been more careful with people's personal space"? Even Gordon Jackson, his defence barrister, admitted his client's behaviour was "inappropriate" and "touchy-feely." I think most women would understand that was code for.

Plus there was the "not proven" verdict on one charge of sexual assault with intent to rape.

[Hardy Boy]

Any male professional in a position of trust knows full well not to put themself in a position where he could be compromised: a teacher would always leave the door open if having to discuss with a pupil, or more sensibly have a couple of pupils at a distance within the same classroom so as to avoid any misconstruction when talking to a pupil on a one-to-one basis.

Alex Salmond took advantage of his position as the most powerful politician in Scotland to put women in his employ where they could have felt exposed or intimidated. It's the same old story of the pretext of working late to initiate a sexual advance.

  I simply cannot believe than all ten women simply fabricated a story. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c754rel2nyno

By that logic, every man who’s ever worked late with a female colleague was automatically up to no good. Being in the same workplace after hours isn’t evidence of anything by itself.

Women demand equality. Ow days and rightly so, either men and women can work together professionally or they can’t, you can’t have it both ways Steve, even if it means working late at night.

[Steve_uk]

By that logic, every man who’s ever worked late with a female colleague was automatically up to no good. Being in the same workplace after hours isn’t evidence of anything by itself.

Women demand equality. Ow days and rightly so, either men and women can work together professionally or they can’t, you can’t have it both ways Steve, even if it means working late at night.

I don't understand why the women falsified allegations if they were in the same room as another woman. Surely they would be likely to be exposed? I think Salmond took his chance when they were away from prying eyes for a moment or two.

[Hardy Boy]

I don't understand why the women falsified allegations if they were in the same room as another woman. Surely they would be likely to be exposed? I think Salmond took his chance when they were away from prying eyes for a moment or two.

I thought Salmond was a great politician, I didn’t agree with his fight for Independence but as a speaker he was outstanding.   He took SNP from nowhere to the top in Scottish politics.  I think back to all the women’s rights and equal rights etc, and wonder what it would be like working the night shift down the Coal mines with women employed, we had to crawl over each other at times in low conditions, I worked in seams less than a metre in height?  We travelled the pit cage (shaft elevator) pressed firmly together to load as many men at a time to travel underground.

[Hardy Boy]

She could have been a woman in love. Isn't she allowed to shed a tear now and then..

She may well have been or was it a convenience marriage, seems a strange set up and a set up that did set alarm bells off?  Murrell was warned by Salmond about the arrangement and he’s been proved right.

[Hardy Boy]

I don't understand why the women falsified allegations if they were in the same room as another woman. Surely they would be likely to be exposed? I think Salmond took his chance when they were away from prying eyes for a moment or two.

At a pre-trial hearing, Salmond's lawyer Gordon Jackson QC told Lady Dorrian there had been text messages between complainants, government officials and SNP members, which he believed represented "a concerted effort made by people in the government to influence the process, to get it as best they could in terms of criminal prosecution". These text messages were ultimately not introduced as evidence and did not become public knowledge until 2026.[27]

The first witness was "Woman H", who gave an account of how Salmond allegedly tried to rape her in Bute House after a private dinner in June 2014. She had not mentioned this incident when she first talked to police in 2018, and the defence suggested that she fabricated the allegations, which the witness rejected.[31][32] Another witness, Samantha Barber, who was present at the dinner, gave later evidence stating that "Woman H" was not even present at Bute House on the night in question.[33]