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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #180 on: October 22, 2024, 12:15:PM »
Maybe the jury should have been taken to the seawall.

But it would have to replicate the time Bamber made the journey.

A day time journey is pointless, like Wilkinsons

The prosecutions window started from 10pm!

He had only bombed back home in the astra at half 9!
« Last Edit: October 22, 2024, 12:15:PM by ILB »
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #181 on: October 22, 2024, 12:17:PM »
You had the chance to visit the area & take photos/videos. Which you said you were going to do.

But bottled it as you always knew your steep incline, 2am BBQ's & vision theories were rubbish.

Please be man enough to say cycling was possible but you believe he drove/walked.

I was working in Essex but didn't have the time.

I didn't bottle anything.

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #182 on: October 22, 2024, 12:18:PM »

Please be man enough to say cycling was possible but you believe he drove/walked.

Cycling the road route is possible. Not the sea wall at night.

Cycling the road route is risky as it offers a clear cut chance of identification
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #183 on: October 22, 2024, 12:20:PM »
CAL also says he showered and changed at WHF.

I would agree if he was going for the 16 minute turnaround.

However the long gap between phoning Julie and the police shows he had time to shower and change at Goldhanger.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #184 on: October 22, 2024, 12:20:PM »
Jez says he doesn't know the route.

Calling cycling over fields " madness " and " laughable"
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #185 on: October 22, 2024, 12:22:PM »
I was working in Essex but didn't have the time.

I didn't bottle anything.

We can't all live on benefits.

I work. Am not a criminal like you.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #186 on: October 22, 2024, 12:23:PM »
Jez says he doesn't know the route.

Calling cycling over fields " madness " and " laughable"

He lived, worked & grew up 5 minutes from it.

It is farm tracks.

You know this.
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« Reply #187 on: October 22, 2024, 12:24:PM »
I work. Am not a criminal like you.

EX criminal actually.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #188 on: October 22, 2024, 12:27:PM »
Seems CAL is saying -

Bamber phoned his AM. Around 2.40am.

Cycled back.

Rang Julie. At or before 3.00am.

Rang the police at 3.26am.

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Possible but if calls could be tracked he would have to explain what he did between 2.40am - 3.26am & why he said Nevill called him 'around 3.10am'.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #189 on: October 22, 2024, 12:30:PM »
He lived, worked & grew up 5 minutes from it.

It is farm tracks.

You know this.

When do you believe he'd been on that route?

He said he had never cycled from goldhanger to WHF in his life. And I believe him.

He had a car
« Last Edit: October 22, 2024, 12:30:PM by ILB »
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #190 on: October 22, 2024, 12:32:PM »
Suppose he could say he was half asleep & got the time of Nevill's call wrong.

He would then have to say what he did for 40+ minutes before he rang the police.

Possible. He could say he showered, got dressed tried ringing Nevill back, looked through Yellow Pages etc.
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« Reply #191 on: October 22, 2024, 12:36:PM »
Thinking again, CAL's theory that he rang his AM is plausible.

He just didn't go for a 16 minute turnaround.

If the police asked him what he did for 40+ minutes he can give a cock & bull story of various things.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #192 on: October 22, 2024, 12:41:PM »
" cock and bull story " on things he did at 3am after being told his dad had rang him and said shelia had gone ape shit with the gun.

Just chills out for 40 minutes doing tasks.

Yes, I'm sure he would be believed.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #193 on: October 22, 2024, 12:42:PM »
Plausible things he can say to cover 40+ minutes -

Woke up fully after Nevill hung up.

Digested what Nevill said.

Tried ringing Nevill back.

Rang Julie.

Showered.

Brushed teeth.

Got dressed.

Ate/drank something.

Thought about what to do.

Looked for the number of Witham.

Rang Witham.

Looked for the number of Chelmsford.

Rang Chelmsford.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #194 on: October 22, 2024, 12:43:PM »
Did Jeremy have the nearby farm workers numbers?

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