CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.

[Adam]

Adam, does this really need a thread of its own? Can't you tack it on to this? https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4405.msg180688/topicseen.html#msg180688

Of course it's worthy of a thread of it's own. It is a section of CAL's scenario.

Just because you have nothing worthwhile to create, doesn't mean no one else has.

Stop being  prat.

[Adam]

Steve actually created a thread 11 years ago. Which is nothing to do with the massacre.

He is so chuffed he wants this thread tacked onto it!

Needs to move on from his 11 year old thread.

[Adam]

New things in the last few days worth considering -

Bamber having 3 available stair cases to ascent.

Nevill exiting out of the box room.

CAL's plausible scenario on the first 11 shots.

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I do agree the twins were shot once each. Intially. However these were shots 1 & 2 rather than shots 9 & 10.

I agree with CAL that Nevill reacted from June being shot.

[snow66!]

Of course it's worthy of a thread of it's own. It is a section of CAL's scenario.

Just because you have nothing worthwhile to create, doesn't mean no one else has.

Stop being  prat.

Thats a bit desperate Adam!

[Adam]

Thats a bit desperate Adam!

What is your view of CAL's scenario?

[Rob_]

What is your view of CAL's scenario?

Rubbish:

No evidence a silencer was used that night.
No evidence Junes bike was used that night.
Good evidence the twins were shot in one go, not one shot each then more latter.
The shot to Sheila impossible unless sedated.
If Nevil and June are in the bedroom Nevil is shot first.

[snow66!]

What is your view of CAL's scenario?

I dont think it was actually Cals scenario Adam,wasn't it the police one that was sent to the DPP that she printed?
Cal also points out that the police didn't all agree with the order the victims died!
The biggest problem with Nevill being shot four times in the bedroom is that he would have been too badly injured to get out of bed or up off the floor, ie, broken arm/life threatening face shots, let alone run to the kitchen and struggle.
The CT now believe he received all face/head shots in the kitchen, I'm not surprised!

[Rob_]

I dont think it was actually Cals scenario Adam,wasn't it the police one that was sent to the DPP that she printed?
Cal also points out that the police didn't all agree with the order the victims died!
The biggest problem with Nevill being shot four times in the bedroom is that he would have been too badly injured to get out of bed or up off the floor, ie, broken arm/life threatening face shots, let alone run to the kitchen and struggle.
The CT now believe he received all face/head shots in the kitchen, I'm not surprised!

Quite a few Sheila scenarios start down in the kitchen, it also makes the telephone call to JB much more plausible, rather than having Nevil fleeing downstairs and leaving his wife and twins to their fate.

[snow66!]

Quite a few Sheila scenarios start down in the kitchen, it also makes the telephone call to JB much more plausible, rather than having Nevil fleeing downstairs and leaving his wife and twins to their fate.

Exactly Rob!

[Adam]

I dont think it was actually Cals scenario Adam,wasn't it the police one that was sent to the DPP that she printed?
Cal also points out that the police didn't all agree with the order the victims died!
The biggest problem with Nevill being shot four times in the bedroom is that he would have been too badly injured to get out of bed or up off the floor, ie, broken arm/life threatening face shots, let alone run to the kitchen and struggle.
The CT now believe he received all face/head shots in the kitchen, I'm not surprised!

The evidence shows Nevill was shot 4 times in his bedroom.

He was then able to get to the kitchen where there was a struggle. ILB believes this lasted 10 minutes.

So saying he would be immobilised after 4 shots does not work.

Where do the CT say all Nevill's shots were in the kitchen?

[Adam]

Rubbish:

No evidence a silencer was used that night.
No evidence Junes bike was used that night.
Good evidence the twins were shot in one go, not one shot each then more latter.
The shot to Sheila impossible unless sedated.
If Nevil and June are in the bedroom Nevil is shot first.

The evidence a silencer was used is Sheila's blood and the aga paint. It was also a silent massacre attempt. So a silencer would be used & sights removed.

Bamber did take June's bike 2 days before the massacre. Julie testified he planned to cycle the Sea Wall.

A strong possobility the twins were shot in one go, six times rather than 8.

Sheila was sedated & Bamber several times stronger than her. Sadly a lamb to the slaughter.

June & Nevill were shot first in CAL's scenario - 9 times.

[Adam]

Nevill's bedroom exit options -

Through the main bedroom door. Bamber still in the room but out of bullets.

Via the box room door.

Using either exit to follow Bamber downstairs when he re loads.

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One of these was done.

[ILB]

How can a supporter of Jeremy Bamber answer this?

There are some posters on here adamant of Jeremy's innocence who would struggle to answer this.

[ILB]

From a person ( myself ) who is on the fence.

To give a cover answer he went to the master bedroom to negate the biggest and only threat he would encounter. Nevill.

It's my view Nevill then bombed past him as he was shooting June. A six foot 4 16 stone man is still a threat and powerful although shot 4 times.

I think the box twins room is a none starter for the reasons I've previously given

[snow66!]

The evidence shows Nevill was shot 4 times in his bedroom.

He was then able to get to the kitchen where there was a struggle. ILB believes this lasted 10 minutes.

So saying he would be immobilised after 4 shots does not work.

Where do the CT say all Nevill's shots were in the kitchen?

The CT say that all the casings found up stairs can be accounted for with the other victims Adam!
Seen it in a tick tock or podcast article.