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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2024, 03:21:PM »
And wads of cash (nudge-nudge) secreted about WHF which his beloved son ferreted for after the murders to spend willy-nilly.

But interesting AE does not appear to suspect JB in this regard.  Afaik none of the relatives raised any particular query about the contents of NB's wallet?  :-\
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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2024, 10:45:PM »
But interesting AE does not appear to suspect JB in this regard.  Afaik none of the relatives raised any particular query about the contents of NB's wallet?  :-\

Huh? They found it! Cash and all! Why would they suspect Jeremy of taking it, when they did?

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2024, 07:45:AM »
Huh? They found it! Cash and all! Why would they suspect Jeremy of taking it, when they did?
Oh so the cash was there?  How did slippery Stan get the blame from Cutie then?

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2024, 09:07:AM »
Huh? They found it! Cash and all! Why would they suspect Jeremy of taking it, when they did?

I don't think so!
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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2024, 09:05:AM »
Huh? They found it! Cash and all! Why would they suspect Jeremy of taking it, when they did?

Why not say then?  Why let JB phone EP and ask about its whereabouts? 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2024, 10:03:PM »
I have always thought it was noteworthy that DS Jones did not question JB about the silencer?  And it didn't come up in JM's interviews either.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2024, 11:17:PM »
Why not say then?  Why let JB phone EP and ask about its whereabouts?

I think you best ask them that - how would I know?

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2024, 11:28:PM »
I don't think so!

Shooting fish in a barrel  ;D


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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2024, 01:54:AM »
The silencer was used. It was a silent massacre attempt & it was a virtual permanent fixture on the rifle anyway.

Sheila's blood, the aga paint & a grey hair ended up on it. It was also damaged.

After shooting Sheila he had to go downstairs anyway. So took the silencer with him. Putting it back in it's box in the gun cupboard.
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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2024, 08:25:AM »
Shooting fish in a barrel  ;D

Nice try matey...

AE's wit stat Sep '85:

"I also recall that Jeremy went back upstairs and returned telling us that his father's wallet containing four to five hundred pounds, credit cards and other items was missing.  Jeremy telephoned Witham Police Station and requested to speak with Detective Sergeant Jones.  I do not know what Jeremy established from the police".

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Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2024, 08:26:AM »
Shooting fish in a barrel  ;D

Your upload above is from COLP.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2024, 06:03:PM »
Nice try matey...

AE's wit stat Sep '85:

"I also recall that Jeremy went back upstairs and returned telling us that his father's wallet containing four to five hundred pounds, credit cards and other items was missing.  Jeremy telephoned Witham Police Station and requested to speak with Detective Sergeant Jones.  I do not know what Jeremy established from the police".

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I never said which statement it was in. FACT is she said it!

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2024, 09:05:PM »
I never said which statement it was in. FACT is she said it!

Yes she did say that in her COLP '91 statement.  But the fact remains in her Sept '85 stat she said JB phoned Witham and asked to speak with DS Jones re the contents of the wallet.  She then said "I do not know what Jeremy established from the police". 

If, as you claim, there was some innocent explanation by way of the relatives/Basil Cock taking the contents of the wallet there was no need for her to allow JB to make such a phone call.  When JB said NB's wallet was missing and/or the contents she would have said 'Oh Jeremy we were asked by Basil Cock to gather up cash and he has it'. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2024, 09:39:PM »
The silencer was used. It was a silent massacre attempt & it was a virtual permanent fixture on the rifle anyway.

Sheila's blood, the aga paint & a grey hair ended up on it. 


Due to deliberate contamination by the relatives (or a relative) over the weekend it was kept on their property.

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Re: Why I Beleive DS Jones Fabricated The Outside Of The Silencer
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2024, 02:49:PM »
Yes she did say that in her COLP '91 statement.  But the fact remains in her Sept '85 stat she said JB phoned Witham and asked to speak with DS Jones re the contents of the wallet.  She then said "I do not know what Jeremy established from the police".

If, as you claim, there was some innocent explanation by way of the relatives/Basil Cock taking the contents of the wallet there was no need for her to allow JB to make such a phone call.  When JB said NB's wallet was missing and/or the contents she would have said 'Oh Jeremy we were asked by Basil Cock to gather up cash and he has it'.

He did phone Witham and did ask to speak to Jones and she didn't know what Jones said to him - so what? That doesn't mean they didn't give it to Basil, just that they didn't tell Jeremy!

Your suggestion that it must have been Jones that went around searching through Nevill's pockets is ridiculous. Why someone didn't say something at the time, is for them to reveal. I don't want to speculate  as to why they did or didn't do something - to be honest, I don't really care. From what we know of Ann, if she thought Jones took the cash, she wouldn't have been happy. Also, did Jones steal Nevill's credit cards too and the wallet? Nah!