Author Topic: Silencer: If Sheila's blood was planted what about David & Pamela's blood group?  (Read 11025 times)

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Offline Cambridgecutie

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No surprise if the relatives were the first to ask.

They would know the rifle would have sights and silencer permanently attached. It was a rifle for shooting rabbits.

The reason Bamber gave for not having the sights/silencer attached was that it would not fit in its case (not the cupboard) with them attached.  This was demonstrated at trial. 

Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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SJ would have also put the grey hair on the silencer.

Can't remember if it was SJ or the relatives who lost that.

The relatives do not mention the grey hair.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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With regard to the sights and silencer this was first brought to EP's attention by the relatives.  AP arrived at Oak Farm on the morning of 8th Aug and phoned Witham.  He spoke to DCI Jones.  Bamber was then asked to complete a statement regarding the sights and silencer during the evening of 8th Aug. 

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https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4226.0.html

The above gave DS Jones plenty of time to work out how incriminating the silencer could be for Bamber if he could connect it to the soc which he did: external blood, paint and hair.
A question was raised by the Police during his interview on the 7th.  I’m not denying AP’s involvement at all, he certainly didn’t have any input on the 7th when the question was asked, if the rifle had sights and silencer.   

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The relatives do not mention the grey hair.

Please provide your narrative.

Either SJ fabricated the silencer & hoped the relatives would find it.

Or SJ fabricated the silencer & asked the relatives to say they found it.
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The reason Bamber gave for not having the sights/silencer attached was that it would not fit in its case (not the cupboard) with them attached.  This was demonstrated at trial.

A weak reason.

Strange having a case for a weapon which can't fit essential accessories.
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A silencer would only take a few seconds to put on. Worth doing if going out to shoot rabbits.
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SJ would have also put the grey hair on the silencer.

Can't remember if it was SJ or the relatives who lost that.
If Stan is pricking his finger to offer blood as evidence to fabricate Bamber a couple of days into the investigation,  he mist plucked a hair out of his scalp to offer this as well.

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question was raised by the Police during his interview on the 7th.  I’m not denying AP’s involvement at all, he certainly didn’t have any input on the 7th when the question was asked, if the rifle had sights and silencer.

No, you are wrong.  If you disagree please provide the evidence.

Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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If Stan is pricking his finger to offer blood as evidence to fabricate Bamber a couple of days into the investigation,  he mist plucked a hair out of his scalp to offer this as well.

If it was SJ's blood, surprising the experts were so specific - Sheila's blood with a remote possibility of being a mixture of June & Nevill's 

Hope CC provides her simple narrative now.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2024, 11:15:AM by Adam »
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Offline Cambridgecutie

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If it was SJ's blood, surprising the experts were so specific - Sheila's blood with a remote possibility of being a mixture of June & Nevill's 

Hope CC provides her simple narrative now.

I thought I made it clear DS Jones fabricated the outside of the silencer not the inside.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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I thought I made it clear DS Jones fabricated the outside of the silencer not the inside.

Who fabricated the inside?
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Offline Adam

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Another narrative is the relatives gave SJ a silencer & suggested he fabricate it. SJ agreed.

Don't agree with this either. But CC has SJ as the main person behind the fabrication.

Hope she provides her narrative now.
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Offline Adam

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Regarding the relatives. They either -

Found the silencer which SJ had fabricated.

Agreed to SJ's request to testify they found it. When they had not.

Asked SJ to fabricate a silencer. In return they would agree to testify they found it with blood/paint on.

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The most plausible is the first one. SJ would have had to have acted quickly. Then hope the relatives found it.
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Who fabricated the inside?

Look at the size of the bloodstains on the rifle and the conclusion after testing.  Hopefully this tells you all you need to know. 

71. The rifle bore blood smearing on the barrel in the region of the fore-sight and around the mechanism and there were splashes of blood to the left side of the weapon. The appearance of the blood staining was consistent with it having been used to strike somebody who was already bleeding. On analysis the blood was found to be human blood but tests to determine grouping were unsuccessful.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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SJ would have had to have acted quickly. As a lone wolf.

If he wanted the relatives to find his fabricated silencer.

Seems he had made his mind up straight away -

Bamber guilty.

Must be framed.

How?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2024, 11:46:AM by Adam »
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