Truth serum

[Adam]

Are we talking pre murders or post murders?

I refuse to accept he had one pre murders because DS Jones interrogated him over the phones and made no mention of an AM.  Also the WS's of others talk about the phones extensively and no one makes any ref to an AM. 

Anyway its irrelevant.

When did he buy one between the 7th August 1985 - Virginna Greaves leaving a message on his AM? - Wilkes.

There is nothing in anyone's WS saying he bought one.

[Adam]

ILB were has JB said this?

It is in the Justice4Jeremy video I posted months ago.

[Cambridgecutie]

When did he buy one between the 7th August 1985 - Virginna Greaves leaving a message on his AM? - Wilkes.

There is nothing in anyone's WS saying he bought one.

If VG did leave a message on an AM was this at Bamber's cottage or SC's flat?  I believe SC may have had an AM and JB might well have taken it to use.

What relevance anyway?

[Adam]

If VG did leave a message on an AM was this at Bamber's cottage or SC's flat?  I believe SC may have had an AM and JB might well have taken it to use.

What relevance anyway?

Wilkes sayjng 'his AM' means Goldhanger.

Julie's 23 page WS details where they went, who with, who paid. After the 7th August 1985. No mention of buying an AM.

The relevance is huge.

[ILB]

Are we talking pre murders or post murders?

I refuse to accept he had one pre murders because DS Jones interrogated him over the phones and made no mention of an AM.  Also the WS's of others talk about the phones extensively and no one makes any ref to an AM. 

Anyway its irrelevant.

Agree its irrelevant as he could answer a call still from nevill. Its Adam whose championed the theory that the AM thwarts the scenario Jeremy said happens.

The tik tok sources are from people who are part of the CT Emma Morris is a regular.

The point I am making is they would not say he had an AM and then state what his usual habit with his AM was if he denied having one. This information would have come from Jeremy directly.

He had an AM at the material time. Its simple.

[ILB]

The relevance is huge.

It would have been relevant if it had been brought up to his detriment during the investigation. As it never was, we will never know. He wasnt asked about it so had no chance to give a reply. It remains no more than speculation

It has no relevance now. It can't be applied retrospectively.

[Adam]

It would have been relevant if it had been brought up to his detriment during the investigation. As it never was, we will never know. He wasnt asked about it so had no chance to give a reply. It remains no more than speculation

It has no relevance now. It can't be applied retrospectively.

The relevance is -

Nevill would not call an AM after being shot 4 times.

If he did call an AM he would leave a message.

Bamber would have remained sleeping.

An AM gives him an option of faking a call from WHF.

[Zoso]

Are we talking pre murders or post murders?

I refuse to accept he had one pre murders because DS Jones interrogated him over the phones and made no mention of an AM.  Also the WS's of others talk about the phones extensively and no one makes any ref to an AM. 

Anyway its irrelevant.

Why would they mention the AM when Bamber states he answered the phone?

[ILB]

The relevance is -

Nevill would not call an AM after being shot 4 times.

If he did call an AM he would leave a message.

Bamber would have remained sleeping.

An AM gives him an option of faking a call from WHF.

I emphatically disagree.

[Adam]

I emphatically disagree.

Do you believe Nevill would call Bamber's AM after being shot 4 times?

[ILB]

Do you believe Nevill would call Bamber's AM after being shot 4 times?

You have no evidence to suggest he was shot before he would have called Bamber.

You rely on the report that the four shots would render him unable to speak. This may have come after the phonecall.

[Adam]

You have no evidence to suggest he was shot before he would have called Bamber.

You rely on the report that the four shots would render him unable to speak. This may have come after the phonecall.

A fully fit Nevill would instantly reclaim the rifle instead of ring Bamber's AM.

To be honest I don't go a bundle on him calling it after being shot 4 times either!

[Adam]

I emphatically disagree.

Do you agree Nevill would leave a message on Bamber's AM?

[ILB]

A fully fit Nevill would instantly reclaim the rifle instead of ring Bamber's AM.

To be honest I don't go a bundle on him calling it after being shot 4 times either!

In your opinion.

Accept you thought your AM theory would put the case to bed.

[ILB]

Do you agree Nevill would leave a message on Bamber's AM?

I believe he would haven woken up and answered the call.