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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #165 on: August 02, 2024, 04:13:PM »
She could have informed Nevill after the ten pm phonecall but I imagine she believed Bamber was just talking bollocks because he had had a bad day at the farm.

Also Bamber would have then just denied it anyway had Nevill confronted him. She probably also was worried about getting Bamber into trouble. Bamber would likely dump her and be enraged
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Also Nevill might not take her seriously. He was an overworked busy tired man who just wanted to go to bed ready for the next days graft. He would have no time to listen to bollocks from Bambers girlfriend and would think they were just having relationship problems and she was angry at him.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #166 on: August 02, 2024, 04:17:PM »
To me she was either in it and expecting to share the spoils or didn't take him seriously and thought he was full of wind and piss
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #167 on: August 02, 2024, 04:40:PM »
Her WS also mentions that for certain periods he didn't talk about massacring the family.

Which would probably in her mind bolster the view that he had no intention of doing anything.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #168 on: August 02, 2024, 06:16:PM »
She could have informed Nevill after the ten pm phonecall but I imagine she believed Bamber was just talking bollocks because he had had a bad day at the farm.

Also Bamber would have then just denied it anyway had Nevill confronted him. She probably also was worried about getting Bamber into trouble. Bamber would likely dump her and be enraged
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Also Nevill might not take her seriously. He was an overworked busy tired man who just wanted to go to bed ready for the next days graft. He would have no time to listen to bollocks from Bambers girlfriend and would think they were just having relationship problems and she was angry at him.

Assume Julie had Nevill's number. As Bamber worked there. She would have had to have gone outside to call him. Lewisham is not a safe place after 10pm.

If Julie had rang Nevill she would have to give the back story of the times Bamber spoke about killing his family.

This would be a total betrayal of Bamber although he may not have been serious.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #169 on: August 02, 2024, 06:32:PM »
Assume Julie had Nevill's number. As Bamber worked there. She would have had to have gone outside to call him. Lewisham is not a safe place after 10pm.

If Julie had rang Nevill she would have to give the back story of the times Bamber spoke about killing his family.

This would be a total betrayal of Bamber although he may not have been serious.

I know Lewisham very well as well as Eltham, Streatham, deptford, bermondsey, i used to live in south London
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #170 on: August 02, 2024, 06:38:PM »
If Julie had rang Nevill, he had several choices. He would know the best one.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #171 on: August 02, 2024, 07:43:PM »
If Julie had rang Nevill, he had several choices. He would know the best one.

Think he would have just believed she had had a domestic with Bamber, and was trying to cause trouble. No doubt Nevills first port of call would be to ring Bamber, and he would just deny it and say what I have just said.

Nevill would side with his son ( and possibly be glad that Bamber was intending to leave Julie  ( as Bamber would probably say )as he knew June would be )

Nevill was too busy and too overworked. I don't think he would have taken it seriously.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #172 on: August 02, 2024, 07:48:PM »
Although it's clear that the relationship with Nevill and Bamber was strained ( no doubt Nevill reeling over the theft, and it's claimed that Nevill and Bamber had had a blazing row in july 1985) i have never believed BW tale of Nevills " premonition "

I think BW was spinning a yarn. Others may disagree.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #173 on: August 02, 2024, 07:51:PM »
Of course though Julie  had phoned Nevill I doubt Bamber would have gone on that night to carry it out. No doubt it would be put back for some time.

Strongly believe he would have dumped Julie though.

It's not like he was at a great loss. He was a good looking bloke and had no problem attracting girls. He would have probably found another girlfriend very shortly after.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #174 on: August 02, 2024, 07:55:PM »
Think he would have just believed she had had a domestic with Bamber, and was trying to cause trouble. No doubt Nevills first port of call would be to ring Bamber, and he would just deny it and say what I have just said.

Nevill would side with his son ( and possibly be glad that Bamber was intending to leave Julie  ( as Bamber would probably say )as he knew June would be )

Nevill was too busy and too overworked. I don't think he would have taken it seriously.

If Julie gave him the full history of his plans, the bike arriving and phone call, Nevill should take it seriously.

He knew Bamber had robbed him and was worried about being shot.

Julie wouldn't ring Nevill because of a phone call domestic.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #175 on: August 02, 2024, 07:56:PM »
Bamber must have been treading on egg shells by August 85 anyway.

If anything the march 85 burglary may have put relations between him and Nevill at boiling point. Although Nevill may have not got the police involved he may have been punishing Bamber by deducting his salary or giving him arduous tasks. I doubt Nevill was a pushover. And I'm sure he never failed to remind Jeremy who had the upperhand.

This may be what caused Bamber to eventually snap. There's not a big difference between march 85 and August 85.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #176 on: August 02, 2024, 07:57:PM »
Of course though Julie  had phoned Nevill I doubt Bamber would have gone on that night to carry it out. No doubt it would be put back for some time.

Strongly believe he would have dumped Julie though.

It's not like he was at a great loss. He was a good looking bloke and had no problem attracting girls. He would have probably found another girlfriend very shortly after.

Nevill had several options.

Put Bruce the guard dog outside his bedroom door. That would surprise Bamber.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #177 on: August 02, 2024, 07:57:PM »

Julie wouldn't ring Nevill because of a phone call domestic.

It is what Nevill may have interpreted it as being.

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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #178 on: August 02, 2024, 08:01:PM »
Nevill had several options.

Put Bruce the guard dog outside his bedroom door. That would surprise Bamber.

I honestly believe he wouldn't have taken it seriously.

Bamber would just deny it and make out Julie was crackers
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #179 on: August 02, 2024, 08:05:PM »
I honestly believe he wouldn't have taken it seriously.

Bamber would just deny it and make out Julie was crackers

Bamber would deny if Nevill rang him.

I would have taken Julie's call seriously. Things had reached breaking point between Nevill & Bamber.
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