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Online Roch

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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #90 on: August 01, 2024, 04:58:PM »
He had first mentioned it in oct/nov 84 and then it become a constant trickle, i don't think anyone would forget what their past boyfriend had revealed especially killing his parents and sister and the Twins,  so i'm pretty certain with nothing to lose she would have told the Police and her friends?  Wouldn't you find it strange if your past Partner had revealed their intention to kill their family on several occasions and then it happens?

It was all over the News and i'm pretty certain she would have seen this, especially coming from Essex herself,  even one of her friends would have told her about her ex Boyfriend?

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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #91 on: August 01, 2024, 05:07:PM »
He had first mentioned it in oct/nov 84 and then it become a constant trickle, i don't think anyone would forget what their past boyfriend had revealed especially killing his parents and sister and the Twins,  so i'm pretty certain with nothing to lose she would have told the Police and her friends?  Wouldn't you find it strange if your past Partner had revealed their intention to kill their family on several occasions and then it happens?

It was all over the News and i'm pretty certain she would have seen this, especially coming from Essex herself,  even one of her friends would have told her about her ex Boyfriend?

It would have been over the news for a day. Then the media would have gone onto the next story.

It is correct a friend or someone like Mary Mugford could have told her about it otherwise.

She may have intially told people she knew what Bamber had said while they were together before the massacre. Get some feedback. As she did in August.

Depends on how much he had said before they split up. If he had just said he hated his parents that would not be enough. But if he had given her his window entry/exit plan that would be worth reporting.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #92 on: August 01, 2024, 05:11:PM »
The Mugfordites are taking a pounding here.

Do you think Julie should have approached the police pre massacre?
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #93 on: August 01, 2024, 05:18:PM »
Julies WS is 99% correct. The 1% Bamber disputes is when he discusses the massacre with her.

Dates, times, places, phone calls, people she was with, things she did, can and have all been checked & verified.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #94 on: August 01, 2024, 05:18:PM »
The Mugfordites are taking a pounding here.
If what she is saying is true about Jeremy,  she has to reveal her part in it as well Roch,  she has to or she cannot implicate him,  it's not hard to see, their wasn't any violence in the relationship or she would have told us, she admits she knew his intentions beforehand and discussed it with him and she admits she knew he had done it.  How on earth can you then plead your innocence when she has helped him by providing a false first statement, she has helped him emotionally by being there for him and shagging about with him and spending his money, and she has helped him by concealment, and in the eyes of the LAW she is an accessory to his Murder. 

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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #95 on: August 01, 2024, 05:21:PM »
If what she is saying is true about Jeremy,  she has to reveal her part in it as well Roch,  she has to or she cannot implicate him,  it's not hard to see, their wasn't any violence in the relationship or she would have told us, she admits she knew his intentions beforehand and discussed it with him and she admits she knew he had done it.  How on earth can you then plead your innocence when she has helped him by providing a false first statement, she has helped him emotionally by being there for him and shagging about with him and spending his money, and she has helped him by concealment, and in the eyes of the LAW she is an accessory to his Murder.

Do you think Julie should have approached the police pre massacre or on the 7th August?
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #96 on: August 01, 2024, 05:23:PM »
It would have been over the news for a day. Then the media would have gone onto the next story.

It is correct a friend or someone like Mary Mugford could have told her about it otherwise.

She may have intially told people she knew what Bamber had said while they were together before the massacre. Get some feedback. As she did in August.

Depends on how much he had said before they split up. If he had just said he hated his parents that would not be enough. But if he had given her his window entry/exit plan that would be worth reporting.
I remember it very well Adam, it was news for quite some while and i dare say even longer in the news outlets in Colchester.  The main theme centred around Sheila being a model, pictures splashed everywhere.

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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #97 on: August 01, 2024, 05:26:PM »
Do you think Julie should have approached the police pre massacre or on the 7th August?
It's hard to call that one Adam, i don't think she wanted to

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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #98 on: August 01, 2024, 05:26:PM »
The 1% of Julie's WS Bamber disputes, he struggles with.

As Julie says a lot of things she could have only got from Bamber.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #99 on: August 01, 2024, 05:29:PM »
Not surprised the defence lawyers said her WS had a 'ring of truth' to it.

They couldn't even get there teeth into the 1%!
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #100 on: August 01, 2024, 05:31:PM »
It's hard to call that one Adam, i don't think she wanted to

Do you think she should have been given a prison sentence because she didn't approach the police until early September?
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #101 on: August 01, 2024, 05:36:PM »
Do you think she should have been given a prison sentence because she didn't approach the police until early September?
All i'm saying, in the eye's of the Law she was an accessory to the murder and this carries a prison sentence.  I'm saying she was as bad as he was she knew off his plans and she knew he committed the murder and she covered for him?  Make of it what you want.

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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #102 on: August 01, 2024, 05:52:PM »
If what she is saying is true about Jeremy,  she has to reveal her part in it as well Roch,  she has to or she cannot implicate him,  it's not hard to see, their wasn't any violence in the relationship or she would have told us, she admits she knew his intentions beforehand and discussed it with him and she admits she knew he had done it.  How on earth can you then plead your innocence when she has helped him by providing a false first statement, she has helped him emotionally by being there for him and shagging about with him and spending his money, and she has helped him by concealment, and in the eyes of the LAW she is an accessory to his Murder.

I don't know if you are technically legally right, but it's hard to disagree with your rationale.  It certainly makes sense to me.


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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #103 on: August 01, 2024, 06:20:PM »
I don't know if you are technically legally right, but it's hard to disagree with your rationale.  It certainly makes sense to me.
Doesn't it fall into this Roch.....................Knowledge of the crime
To be convicted of an accessory charge, the accused must generally be proved to have had actual knowledge that a crime was going to be, or had been, committed. Furthermore, there must be proof that the accessory knew that his or her action, or inaction, was helping the criminals commit the crime, or evade detection,

(1) Being an accessory after the fact?
(2) Perverting the course of justice?

any act that interferes with an investigation or causes it to head in the wrong direction may tend to pervert the course of justice.
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Re: Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?
« Reply #104 on: August 01, 2024, 06:55:PM »
Her simple explanation pre massacre is that she did not believe he would do it.

After the massacre if the police had approached her & she spent days being interviewed and denied everything, she would have been prosecuted.
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