Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?

[ILB]

Having had the advantage of meeting Jeremy Bamber many years ago. I know form first hand that he is self assured confident individual. But this display of confidence towards Julie and police officers is something I've never seen before. Remember prior to 1985 he'd never been arrested for a crime.

I don't know whether to believe from the gulity scenario if it was down to his arrogance and stupidity or the possiblity they were in it together. ( Him and Julie )

[Adam]

I don't think she kept quiet in fairness when he was going on about it. She probably just didn't believe he would do anything, he was just venting and it all was pie in the sky.

Even when he rang her on the night she was like " whatever don't talk stupid "

I imagine when she found out what happened it was a massive shock, when it turned out he wasn't bullshitting after all.

Agree that she didn't believe he would do anything pre massacre. She said this herself.

Some people have said she should have contacted the police pre massacre. After the massacre she may have wished she had done that. This helped motivate her to approach the police.

[ILB]

If I was to kill my family and I had told my missus that I had done it and I had told beforehand Id been planning it, she would shop me straight away. And rightly so.

If I had done all that and even she hadn't said anything. To then cheat on her with another woman, then I might as well drop her off at the police station! Hell hath no fury et al.

Bamber must have believed Julie would never say anything.  Was his plan with the cash once it had gone through probate to buy her silence?

Or maybe Bamber just thought " well if she does grass me up " it's not the end of the world, il fight it at trial and prove my innocence

[ILB]

Talking from the gulity scenario.

It's obvious the relationship would be doomed. He had killed his family. She was in turmoil. Eventually they would part ways.

Jeremy was taking a huge risk with this. But obviously was not bothered. Or he had a plan.

[Jane]

If I was to kill my family and I had told my missus that I had done it and I had told beforehand Id been planning it, she would shop me straight away. And rightly so.

If I had done all that and even she hadn't said anything. To then cheat on her with another woman, then I might as well drop her off at the police station! Hell hath no fury et al.

Bamber must have believed Julie would never say anything.  Was his plan with the cash once it had gone through probate to buy her silence?

Or maybe Bamber just thought " well if she does grass me up " it's not the end of the world, il fight it at trial and prove my innocence

Surely your first point revolves round whether or not your wife believed you capable of murder?

It very possible he told her that they'd always be together and they'd have a wonderful life.

But he can't implicate her now without putting himself centre stage.

[ILB]

Surely your first point revolves round whether or not your wife believed you capable of murder?

It very possible he told her that they'd always be together and they'd have a wonderful life.

But he can't implicate her now without putting himself centre stage.

Many people who believed Jeremy guilty also at the same time had a lingering belief that Shelia could have done it. We have to remember Shelia had mental health difficulties. In many a sense he had a very convinient scapegoat.

The relatives BW, at the beginning it was all " ohhh I'm sorry Jeremy, holding his hands hugging etc, it's only after they began to get suspicious

For Julie however she must have known from the outset he had done it, he had told her of his intention and had been planning it for a long time, he had phoned her.

[Adam]

Bamber and Julie as 24 & 21 year olds acted and reacted the way they did.

Whether people think it was right, wrong, risky or they would have done it differently themselves, nothing can change what decisions they made.

There are reasons why both did what they did in regards to there interaction.

[ILB]

Surely your first point revolves round whether or not your wife believed you capable of murder?

My Missus knows I don't bullshit, if I told her I had done something. She would know I had done it. Also if it happened, she wouldn't need to be clairvoyant.

I give Julie the benefit of being 20, and in love with Bamber.

What I noticed in her ws, she doesn't cast him in a that negative light. In terms of his behaviour. She never mentions any type of controlling behaviour, I will never belief it was a " Julie do as your told relationship "even post massacre.

[Jane]

Many people who believed Jeremy guilty also at the same time had a lingering belief that Shelia could have done it. We have to remember Shelia had mental health difficulties. In many a sense he had a very convinient scapegoat.

The relatives BW, at the beginning it was all " ohhh I'm sorry Jeremy, holding his hands hugging etc, it's only after they began to get suspicious

For Julie however she must have known from the outset he had done it, he had told her of his intention and had been planning it for a long time, he had phoned her.

But without admitting guilt, how can he implicate Julie?

[ILB]

Bamber and Julie as 24 & 21 year olds acted and reacted the way they did.

Whether people think it was right, wrong, risky or they would have done it differently themselves, nothing can change what decisions they made.

There are reasons why both did what they did in regards to there interaction.

These were not feral children from a council towerblock with a bad background

Julie was academically bright, Jeremy was streetwise travelling around AUS NZ.

From the gulit perspective I afford Julie sympathy as she was obviously in love and a young girl. But that's as far as it stretches

[ILB]

But without admitting guilt, how can he implicate Julie?

We were talking about the risk in Julie coming forward.

If he had confessed he may have tried to implicate Julie out of spite.

[Adam]

These were not feral children from a council towerblock with a bad background

Julie was academically bright, Jeremy was streetwise travelling around AUS NZ.

From the gulit perspective I afford Julie sympathy as she was obviously in love and a young girl. But that's as far as it stretches

They both did what they did. Both before and after  -

Bamber tell her of his plans. Julie not report him.

Bamber tell her he was involved. Via a proxy.

Julie return to London, tell 5 people and approach the police. Within one month.

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As said there are reasons why they made those choices. But people believe they would do things differeny themselves.

[ILB]

They both did what they did. Both before and after  -

Bamber tell her of his plans. Julie not report him.

Bamber tell her he was involved. Via a proxy.

Julie return to London, tell 5 people and approach the police. Within one month.

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As said there are reasons why they made those choices. But people believe they would do things differeny themselves.

People are bound to question the motives of Julie in this case, from the behaviour and the fact the man maintains innocence.

[ILB]

They both did what they did. Both before and after  -

Bamber tell her of his plans. Julie not report him.

Bamber tell her he was involved. Via a proxy.

Julie return to London, tell 5 people and approach the police. Within one month.

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As said there are reasons why they made those choices. But people believe they would do things differeny themselves.

As said I wouldn't expect Julie to report him for discussing it.

She will have thought he was talking bollocks

He will have confided in her and mentioned it at certain periods, such as when arguing with Nevill or a bad day at the farm.

At other times he might not have mentioned it at all. They were just ostensibly a normal young couple.

[ILB]

Obviously from the gulit perspective he made the snap decision that Tuesday afternoon.

Julie was with him the previous weekend. She said he didn't mention it at all.

Something snapped that Tuesday.

Fair play, all the family under one roof, but he would have known of this prior and during the weekend with Julie.