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Offline Zoso

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Re: The New Yorker article
« Reply #120 on: July 30, 2024, 01:21:PM »
Julie got things wrong about the massacre Adam,haven't you read the whole article?

She told the police what Bamber told her - of course she would get things wrong if he didn't tell her what really happened!

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« Reply #121 on: July 30, 2024, 02:09:PM »
More like she was in collusion with AE as Dave has pointed out too many times Adam.

Why would AE alert Bamber's girlfriend they thought him guilty?

When would AE keep feeding information to Julie? Bamber was dragging her around England & Amsterdam on his jolly ups.

I have asked David several times but have never got an answer.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #122 on: July 30, 2024, 02:23:PM »
Why would AE alert Bamber's girlfriend they thought him guilty?

When would AE keep feeding information to Julie? Bamber was dragging her around England & Amsterdam on his jolly ups.

I have asked David several times but have never got an answer.


Good question, Adam!  Why would they even think to share their suspicions with her? Here she was, arriving all the way from London, missing work, just to be by his side and hold his hand! Given their suspicions, at that early stage, I imagine they'd have had concerns about possible retribution if they shared with her and she'd told him.

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Re: The New Yorker article
« Reply #123 on: July 30, 2024, 02:43:PM »

Good question, Adam!  Why would they even think to share their suspicions with her? Here she was, arriving all the way from London, missing work, just to be by his side and hold his hand! Given their suspicions, at that early stage, I imagine they'd have had concerns about possible retribution if they shared with her and she'd told him.

It may depend upon when exactly it was, that she offered such information.  She did, did she not become the weakest link in the equation? She did, did she not become a malleable prosecution witness? She did, did she not have to save her own skin? She did, did she not have a link man, in the form of Stan Jones?

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« Reply #124 on: July 30, 2024, 02:55:PM »
It may depend upon when exactly it was, that she offered such information.  She did, did she not become the weakest link in the equation? She did, did she not become a malleable prosecution witness? She did, did she not have to save her own skin? She did, did she not have a link man, in the form of Stan Jones?


Depending on how you look at it, she became the prosecution's strongest link. Not entirely certain what you mean by "malleable". Do you mean "manipulated"? I'm allowing that such, given that "she had to save her own skin", would have been possible. It's alleged that Stan Jones took her under his wing -and more besides if some supporters are to be believed!- but there is no proof of anything inappropriate.

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Re: The New Yorker article
« Reply #125 on: July 30, 2024, 04:22:PM »
It may depend upon when exactly it was, that she offered such information.  She did, did she not become the weakest link in the equation? She did, did she not become a malleable prosecution witness? She did, did she not have to save her own skin? She did, did she not have a link man, in the form of Stan Jones?

Save her own skin from what?

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« Reply #126 on: July 30, 2024, 04:25:PM »
Save her own skin from what?

Not turning in a multiple homicide suspect a lot earlier than she did. Save her own skin like Maxine Carr. Sorry but I'm with HB on this. Not you, Jane and Steve.
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Re: The New Yorker article
« Reply #127 on: July 30, 2024, 04:40:PM »
Not turning in a multiple homicide suspect a lot earlier than she did. Save her own skin like Maxine Carr. Sorry but I'm with HB on this. Not you, Jane and Steve.

Huh? No need to be sorry, never needed anyone's endorsement before  ;D.

How could she be a suspect? she was in London with plenty of witnesses. There's no way the police could have had any evidence to tie her to the murders.She had no motive and she didn't lie for Bamber by giving him an alibi.

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« Reply #128 on: July 30, 2024, 04:46:PM »
Not turning in a multiple homicide suspect a lot earlier than she did. Save her own skin like Maxine Carr. Sorry but I'm with HB on this. Not you, Jane and Steve.


Maxine Carr openly lied. She said she was in the house when the murders happened, providing him with an alibi. Wasn't she in Grimsby? Besides, she didn't have a career which could be ended, unlike Julie. They may never have carried out anything they may have threatened her with, but how did she know that?

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« Reply #129 on: July 30, 2024, 05:01:PM »
She told the police what Bamber told her - of course she would get things wrong if he didn't tell her what really happened!
Well,thats one way of looking at it Zoso.

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« Reply #130 on: July 30, 2024, 05:47:PM »
Huh? No need to be sorry, never needed anyone's endorsement before  ;D.

How could she be a suspect? she was in London with plenty of witnesses. There's no way the police could have had any evidence to tie her to the murders.She had no motive and she didn't lie for Bamber by giving him an alibi.

Maxine Carr openly lied. She said she was in the house when the murders happened, providing him with an alibi. Wasn't she in Grimsby? Besides, she didn't have a career which could be ended, unlike Julie. They may never have carried out anything they may have threatened her with, but how did she know that?

I refer you the opinions of Hardy Boy, which which I concur.

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« Reply #131 on: July 30, 2024, 05:59:PM »
I refer you the opinions of Hardy Boy, which which I concur.


What the hell could they have charged her with? She delayed coming forward, by which time they already suspected him anyway, but her delay didn't make him less guilty. I think she probably did know rather more than she admitted to, but unless they could rely on the evidence of mind readers, she couldn't have been imprisoned for it.

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« Reply #132 on: July 30, 2024, 06:15:PM »

What the hell could they have charged her with? She delayed coming forward, by which time they already suspected him anyway, but her delay didn't make him less guilty. I think she probably did know rather more than she admitted to, but unless they could rely on the evidence of mind readers, she couldn't have been imprisoned for it.

When I see you debate Mugford with HB, I will join in. Same for Zoso. But you won't.

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Re: The New Yorker article
« Reply #133 on: July 30, 2024, 06:28:PM »
When I see you debate Mugford with HB, I will join in. Same for Zoso. But you won't.

Huh? You seem to be wearing a bit of a chip Rock, dust it off because debate is so much easier without it!

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Re: The New Yorker article
« Reply #134 on: July 30, 2024, 06:44:PM »
It may depend upon when exactly it was, that she offered such information.  She did, did she not become the weakest link in the equation? She did, did she not become a malleable prosecution witness? She did, did she not have to save her own skin? She did, did she not have a link man, in the form of Stan Jones?
Roch, have you suddenly become unduly influenced by the late Russell Harty?