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Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« on: July 27, 2024, 02:58:PM »
CCTV would cover some routes.

Itemised phone bills in the whole country.

DNA evidence.

Stricter crime scene protocol.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2024, 03:03:PM »
I don't believe any of these would prevent a massacre attempt in 2024.

The Sea Wall route will still have no CCTV.

In 2024 he would know he would have to ring his AM. Or answer his own call. No one knows what his stance was in 1985.

His DNA would be inside WHF. But he was always there.

The police throwing away carpets early would not make much difference. The blood in the hallway was Nevill's. The blood by June was hers.

« Last Edit: July 27, 2024, 03:22:PM by Adam »
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2024, 03:14:PM »
WHF may have security cameras in 2024. That is something he would be aware of.

He would have to find a way to avoid being filmed. Or to disable the system a few days beforehand.

June's available bike would be better quality than in 1985. 

He may have bought his own bike a few weeks or months beforehand. You can buy good quality second hand bikes online cheaply.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2024, 05:54:PM by Adam »
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2024, 03:21:PM »
He would be expecting everyone to be asleep at 2am in 2024.

However slightly less chance of this happening. There is now 24/7 TV on hundreds of channels.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2024, 03:31:PM »
The available rifles inside WHF in 2024 may be of better quality.

He could investigate online how effective it would be on humans.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2024, 03:34:PM »
The clothes he would wear in 2024 are more likely to be destroyed as soon as possible.

Today's technology can detect things on clothes invisible to the naked eye.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2024, 03:35:PM »
In 2024, phone records would confirm there was no call from Nevill to the police.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2024, 03:40:PM »
Human traits such as greed, hatred & resentment still exist in 2024.

Bamber would still have these feelings in 2024 if tied to the farm while Sheila was being supported.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2024, 03:54:PM »
In 2024 everyone has mobile phones.

Bamber would have no control over what phones were at WHF. 

He would need to know how to access Nevill's mobile if there were no house phones at WHF.

A mobile would show last number dialled and call length. 
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2024, 04:02:PM »
In 2024 it may be a case of a WHF mobile calling his mobile at Goldhanger.

The days of seperate answering machines are long gone.

Bamber would have to investigate online how to cover himself with Nevill's call.

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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2024, 04:10:PM »
In 2024 it would show the time he called Julie.

Calling Julie could have been mobile to mobile.

People still have house phones. I have one myself. Not sure if they still have the 1571 answering machine service. This may be useful to Bamber in 2024 regarding phoning his cottage from WHF. 
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2024, 04:14:PM »
It is less likely a 3am call to Julie would be answered in 2024.

Julie could have put her mobile to silent or switched it off.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2024, 04:27:PM »
I don't believe any of these would prevent a massacre attempt in 2024.

The Sea Wall route will still have no CCTV.

In 2024 he would know he would have to ring his AM. Or answer his own call. No one knows what his stance was in 1985.

His DNA would be inside WHF. But he was always there.

The police throwing away carpets early would not make much difference. The blood in the hallway was Nevill's. The blood by June was hers.
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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2024, 05:05:PM »
CCTV would cover some routes.

Itemised phone bills in the whole country.

DNA evidence.

Stricter crime scene protocol.
He would have a mobile phone., and not needed his house phone?

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Re: Differences if the massacre was committed now:
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2024, 05:40:PM »
Believe the phone technology in 2024 would make things harder.

Ringing his mobile at Goldhanger from WHF would show a record of the call going to voice mail. So he could not say he answered his fathers call.

He could also not answer his own call when getting back to Goldhanger as it goes to voicemail.

The internet says the 1571 option still exists on home phones. However BT would be able to tell that Nevill's call went to 1571.

He couldn't bring his mobile to WHF. Then answer his own/Nevill's call. Satelite technology would be able to tell the location of his mobile.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2024, 05:49:PM by Adam »
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