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Offline Hardy Boy

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2024, 02:03:PM »
i have to leave soon, but Rivlin let JB down badly in this matter he could have grilled Bew's.

Also they all ran back to CA7 but no mention of this in their statements.

I will try to dig it out latter.
I don't think Bamber himself had mentioned the window sighting and running back to the car in his Statement as well Rob?  Bews was asked by Rivlin about the window sighting though Rob?

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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2024, 02:15:PM »
Exactly Rob.
Why didn't Bamber mention it in his statements? 

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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2024, 03:00:PM »
It's common knowledge Adam you know perfectly well Rivlin let Bew's off when he could have grilled him.

Please provide the source.
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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2024, 04:40:PM »
Please provide the source.
In the four statements Bamber gave, he never mentions once about the window sighting, no mention of the possible ALIBI even when it's put to him by the Police that he murdered his family, he had the perfect opportunity to put this to the Police in his defence.  Two day's of questioning and yet he never mentions it?

He even mentions in one statement that when he arrived with the Police he could hear the dog whinning in a distressed manner,  yet he doesn't mention the window sighting and the figure at the window, in fact  does he mention it to anyone when he's telling his story leading up to his arrest? 




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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2024, 04:48:PM »
In the four statements Bamber gave, he never mentions once about the window sighting, no mention of the possible ALIBI even when it's put to him by the Police that he murdered his family, he had the perfect opportunity to put this to the Police in his defence.  Two day's of questioning and yet he never mentions it?

He even mentions in one statement that when he arrived with the Police he could hear the dog whinning in a distressed manner,  yet he doesn't mention the window sighting and the figure at the window, in fact  does he mention it to anyone when he's telling his story leading up to his arrest?

Rather like when he threw in the line about Nevill sounding scared/distressed when he thought he'd been on the line for too long in conversation with police, AND, in a London restaurant  saying, for the first time, that, when Nevill phoned him, he thought Nevill may already have been injured.

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2024, 04:55:PM »
Rather like when he threw in the line about Nevill sounding scared/distressed when he thought he'd been on the line for too long in conversation with police, AND, in a London restaurant  saying, for the first time, that, when Nevill phoned him, he thought Nevill may already have been injured.
Oh yes, he moves the story on when [if believed] he tells it to Mike............................Jeremy said that this figure was stood there in that position for between two and three minutes, before all of a sudden, and quite unexpectedly, the figure started to move from the left hand side of the bedroom window, across it, and out of sight to the right of the window,


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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2024, 05:08:PM »
Why didn't Bamber mention it in his statements?
Dont know HB,although it was Bews or the other guy who actually saw the movement wasn't it?

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2024, 05:17:PM »
Dont know HB,although it was Bews or the other guy who actually saw the movement wasn't it?
Not according to what he told Mike Snow?

Jeremy said that this figure was stood there in that position for between two and three minutes, before all of a sudden, and quite unexpectedly, the figure started to move from the left hand side of the bedroom window, across it, and out of sight to the right of the window,

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2024, 05:22:PM »
Not according to what he told Mike Snow?

Jeremy said that this figure was stood there in that position for between two and three minutes, before all of a sudden, and quite unexpectedly, the figure started to move from the left hand side of the bedroom window, across it, and out of sight to the right of the window,
I dont remember seeing that HB.

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2024, 05:29:PM »
I dont remember seeing that HB.
Like i said Snow, it's what he told Mike?  I can remeber Mike posting this,

I can confirm that the very first occasion that Jeremy realized or had any notion that he had an alibi, by a reliance upon the  sighted figure at the bedroom window, was when I talked him through his case back in 1989, when we were both inmates on B Wing, at HMP Full Sutton, Nr York. At that time Jeremy was also on a business studies course, and I was studying social sciences, philosophy, and economics, amongst other things...

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2024, 05:33:PM »
In the four statements Bamber gave, he never mentions once about the window sighting, no mention of the possible ALIBI even when it's put to him by the Police that he murdered his family, he had the perfect opportunity to put this to the Police in his defence.  Two day's of questioning and yet he never mentions it?

He even mentions in one statement that when he arrived with the Police he could hear the dog whinning in a distressed manner,  yet he doesn't mention the window sighting and the figure at the window, in fact  does he mention it to anyone when he's telling his story leading up to his arrest?

At the time he made those statements he had not been charged so he might not have thought it necessary. He knew what the police had seen. He was not charged until several weeks later. this is a silly position for guilt supporters to advance.

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2024, 05:35:PM »
At the time he made those statements he had not been charged so he might not have thought it necessary. He knew what the police had seen. He was not charged until several weeks later. this is a silly position for guilt supporters to advance.
He was under caution for two of them.

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2024, 05:43:PM »
He was under caution for two of them.
That argument does not 'wash' all innocent people are often questioned under caution. Even Tony Blair was interviewed under caution. It is just a device to indicate that they must tell the truth and anything they say may lead to other legal remedies at a later date. Nice try

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2024, 05:58:PM »
That argument does not 'wash' all innocent people are often questioned under caution. Even Tony Blair was interviewed under caution. It is just a device to indicate that they must tell the truth and anything they say may lead to other legal remedies at a later date. Nice try
I'm not trying to make it wash,  it's the truth, he was under caution, he would have been given his legal rights and he would be left in no doubt he was suspected of murdering 5 members of his family, it was his chance to tell the police what he knew and his chance to tell of the window sighting that would give him an Alibi.   I don't know why you have to be so Smug by adding the words Nice try, i'm not trying anything i'm debating with Rob and Snow, it's not a nice try it's a fact. he never mentioned the window sighting in his statements. 

 

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Re: Prosecution hid exculpatory evidence.
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2024, 06:11:PM »
I'm not trying to make it wash,  it's the truth, he was under caution, he would have been given his legal rights and he would be left in no doubt he was suspected of murdering 5 members of his family, it was his chance to tell the police what he knew and his chance to tell of the window sighting that would give him an Alibi.   I don't know why you have to be so Smug by adding the words Nice try, i'm not trying anything i'm debating with Rob and Snow, it's not a nice try it's a fact. he never mentioned the window sighting in his statements.

Utter nonsense. Wriggle all you like. He obviously felt no need to mention the siting and why would he in his position. EP could have asked him to verify the statements of Bews and Co. He answered the questions posed. He was not asked to provide a cast iron alibi. How do you know what he was told prior to his questioning.