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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #135 on: July 17, 2025, 10:35:PM »
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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #136 on: August 01, 2025, 08:57:AM »

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #137 on: August 01, 2025, 11:04:AM »
Melanie speaks: https://youtu.be/M39HvcgvHts

Heaven help us!  Israel the hope for the world?  Do you really believe this Steve? 


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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #138 on: August 01, 2025, 11:12:AM »
Heaven help us!  Israel the hope for the world?  Do you really believe this Steve?
Yes, because our morality stems from the Old Testament of Moses.

Here's a little more for you, but knowing your opinion it may raise your systolic blood pressure and should therefore  come with a government health warning. https://youtu.be/Ua9rkluaXRQ

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #139 on: August 01, 2025, 11:41:AM »
Yes, because our morality stems from the Old Testament of Moses.

Here's a little more for you, but knowing your opinion it may raise your systolic blood pressure and should therefore  come with a government health warning. https://youtu.be/Ua9rkluaXRQ

The problem is that the fundamental message the Zionists take from the Old Testament is that of Jewish supremacy, the idea that the Jews are god's chosen race.  That is extremely dangerous and we can see where that has led in Palestine.  I saw the Israel day parade in New York a few years back.  Some of the slogans made me deeply uncomfortable.  One still sticks in my mind.  A group of chidren from from a Jewish boys' club all wore T shirts with slogans on the front and back including "33 Nobel prize winners".  Zionist kids are indoctrinated from an early age with the concept that Jews are better.  The only encouraging part was the heckling by orthodox Jewish groups saying that Israel is against the Torah!



 

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #140 on: August 01, 2025, 12:06:PM »
The problem is that the fundamental message the Zionists take from the Old Testament is that of Jewish supremacy, the idea that the Jews are god's chosen race.  That is extremely dangerous and we can see where that has led in Palestine.  I saw the Israel day parade in New York a few years back.  Some of the slogans made me deeply uncomfortable.  One still sticks in my mind.  A group of chidren from from a Jewish boys' club all wore T shirts with slogans on the front and back including "33 Nobel prize winners".  Zionist kids are indoctrinated from an early age with the concept that Jews are better.  The only encouraging part was the heckling by orthodox Jewish groups saying that Israel is against the Torah!



 
But they've kept their identity and survived through 2000 years of persecution. I don't want to change anyone's religion against their own will (this was codified in the Vatican Council of 1965) though I do think immigrants should conform to the laws and customs of the host country, which I fear are not being adhered to as I look ahead to the future.

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #141 on: August 01, 2025, 03:36:PM »
But they've kept their identity and survived through 2000 years of persecution. I don't want to change anyone's religion against their own will (this was codified in the Vatican Council of 1965) though I do think immigrants should conform to the laws and customs of the host country, which I fear are not being adhered to as I look ahead to the future.

I actually agree with you on this.  I think immigrants should make the effort to learn and to use English and should conform with the laws of the country and make efforts to integrate into the community in the areas they live.  Creating what are effectively ghettos in some areas undoubtedlty increases tension and fuels hostility. 


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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #142 on: August 02, 2025, 03:13:PM »
I actually agree with you on this.  I think immigrants should make the effort to learn and to use English and should conform with the laws of the country and make efforts to integrate into the community in the areas they live.  Creating what are effectively ghettos in some areas undoubtedlty increases tension and fuels hostility.
There will be more of this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/live-updates-hundreds-gather-manchester-32187357

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2025, 03:22:PM »
There will be more of this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/live-updates-hundreds-gather-manchester-32187357

I am afraid you are right.  The system is a complete mess and many people are legitimately concerned and angry.  Most of them are not extreme right wing.  The problem is some really nasty dangerous groups like Britain First get in the thick of it and exploit the situation.  There will be an increase in violence I fear.

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #144 on: September 08, 2025, 07:12:PM »
Attack at the bus station in Jerusalem: https://youtu.be/kfGJ0zh3i6g

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #146 on: September 16, 2025, 05:53:PM »
Melanie explains once again how Israel stands up for Western values: https://youtu.be/K24zGoOCrlE

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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #147 on: September 22, 2025, 08:04:PM »
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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #148 on: October 02, 2025, 09:15:PM »
The Manchester synagogue terror attacker has been named as Jihad Al-Shamie.

The 35-year-old British citizen of Syrian descent was shot dead by police moments after he targeted worshippers at Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue in Manchester shortly before 9:30am.

Two people were killed and three others seriously injured in the car and knife attack, which took place on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar.

The suspect was shot within seven minutes of the first call to the emergency services and two people have since been arrested over the attack.

A neighbour of a house raided in Langley Crescent, Prestwich, which appears to be a council house, said she recognised its occupant from photographs of the synagogue attacker.

She told The Telegraph: “He lived there 10 years, with no wife or kids that I could see. He never seemed to speak to anyone around here.

“I recognised him from the pictures of the attacker. I recognised his little car, the Kia, because he’d always park it badly outside ours.

“I’d see him walking around in his pyjamas and slip-on sandals, carrying a shopping bag.

“He was quite bulked up and used to keep his exercise weights in his garage. I’d see them there.”

Two firearms officers were seen on social media footage surrounding a man on the ground, shouting at members of the public to “get back, he has got a bomb”.

Moments later, the terrorist attempted to get to his feet before officers shouted a warning and gunshots rang out.

Sir Keir Starmer flew back to the UK early from a meeting of European leaders in Denmark to chair an emergency Cobra meeting on the stabbing.

The Prime Minister said the Government had deployed “additional police assets” at synagogues across the country.

Gideon Sa’ar, the Israeli foreign minister, said authorities in Britain had “failed to take the necessary action to curb this toxic wave of antisemitism and have effectively allowed it to persist”.

He added: “The truth must be told: blatant and rampant antisemitic and anti-Israeli incitement, as well as calls of support for terror, have recently become a widespread phenomenon in the streets of London, in cities across Britain, and on its campuses.
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Re: Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel
« Reply #149 on: October 03, 2025, 06:11:PM »