Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel

[Steve_uk]

"The West needs the Jews to be aggressors, never victims, in order that the West can avoid its own moral culpability, and this terrible business of the Jews being the West's conscience, which it cannot abide." https://youtu.be/wWD6ySsVS70

Questions to Melanie just after 53 minutes.

[Steve_uk]

Yet another pro-Palestine demonstration occurred in Manchester City Centre today, and unwittingly I had a minor part to play. I was minding my own business outside Marks and Spencer when a young child tripped amidst the throng, whom I assisted to get upright. Police outnumbered the Jewish contingent, who were kettled on one side of the street, the Palestine demonstrators far outnumbering them waving flags and banging drums. It all passed off as peacefully as could be expected.

I don't know who Metroland Cultures purport to be, and they may raise money for good causes, but the following is surely beyond the pale: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/children-as-young-as-six-made-badges-calling-for-intifada-at-charity-workshop/ar-BB1pV0Zl?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5c6e2168590e469aba609b92f429a3f2&ei=17

[Steve_uk]

It's quite clear to me at the 39 minute mark the Netanyahu cabinet is planning an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. https://youtu.be/rKkcstwPd9k

[Hardy Boy]

It's quite clear to me at the 39 minute mark the Netanyahu cabinet is planning an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. https://youtu.be/rKkcstwPd9k

Thanks for that Steve, not watched it all yet, really powerful speech so far and no matter what side your on, you have to feel for those who have died on both sides innocently in all this.

[Steve_uk]

More shocking scenes: https://youtu.be/Q4iq9yNoP1A

[Steve_uk]

Melanie discusses the war in Gaza, Hamas, Hezbollah and Benjamin Netanyahu. https://melaniephillips.substack.com/p/israel-war-update?utm_source=podcast-email&publication_id=77655&post_id=148723880&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&utm_content=watch_now_button&r=30kz0r&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

[Roch]

I haven't watched it - but she has to be one of the most odious individuals I have ever come across on the telly.

[Steve_uk]

I haven't watched it - but she has to be one of the most odious individuals I have ever come across on the telly.

Well, do watch it. You might change your mind.

[ngb1066]

I haven't watched it - but she has to be one of the most odious individuals I have ever come across on the telly.

I agree.  I really think we will be judged by how we have failed to stand up to Zionism and Israel in years to come. It is shameful, as it was in relation to those in the 1930s who failed to call out (or actively supported) Nazi Germany.  I only wish I could do more to campaign against this evil.

[Steve_uk]

What some of you can't stand is a 16-million population worldwide standing firm against 2 billion Muslims, some of whom are out to eradicate the state of Israel.

[ngb1066]

What some of you can't stand is a 16-million population worldwide standing firm against 2 billion Muslims, some of whom are out to eradicate the state of Israel.

"Standing firm"" means supporting and condoning genocide.  I really admire and respect those Jews standing up for humanity and decency and condemning those butchering criminals you support.

[Steve_uk]

"Standing firm"" means supporting and condoning genocide.  I really admire and respect those Jews standing up for humanity and decency and condemning those butchering criminals you support.

Did you watch the interview? What is your opinion on Hamas using Gazans as human shields? Why does Hezbollah have thousands of rockets pointed at Israel, and why should Israelis in the north be internally displaced in their own country? https://youtu.be/PzSSlHXqTEI

[ngb1066]

Did you watch the interview? What is your opinion on Hamas using Gazans as human shields? Why does Hezbollah have thousands of rockets pointed at Israel, and why should Israelis in the north be internally displaced in their own country? https://youtu.be/PzSSlHXqTEI

I am not a supporter of Hamas, but they were democratically elected in Gaza (incidentally with the support of Israel against Fatah, the movement then leading the Palestinian people). They are the only protection the people of Gaza have against Israeli terror.  I think it is a disgrace that the "international community" does not unite to defeat Israel's crimes.  Israel is a criminal state and it leaders should be in the Hague now.  Whatever criticisms I have of the Hamas leadership (which are many) they pale into insignificance against the crimes of the criminal Zionist regime.  History will judge supporters like you harshly, as they did those who supported and appeased Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

What do you say about the actions of the fanatical settler thugs?  Do you admire Ben-Gvir?



   

[Steve_uk]

I am not a supporter of Hamas, but they were democratically elected in Gaza (incidentally with the support of Israel against Fatah, the movement then leading the Palestinian people). They are the only protection the people of Gaza have against Israeli terror.  I think it is a disgrace that the "international community" does not unite to defeat Israel's crimes.  Israel is a criminal state and it leaders should be in the Hague now.  Whatever criticisms I have of the Hamas leadership (which are many) they pale into insignificance against the crimes of the criminal Zionist regime.  History will judge supporters like you harshly, as they did those who supported and appeased Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

What do you say about the actions of the fanatical settler thugs?  Do you admire Ben-Gvir?



 

You're forgetting the hostages Hamas took on October 7, in addition to murdering 1139 Israeli citizens. Ramle is a mixed area, and with heightened tensions violence is not unexpected. I don't foresee an autonomous Palestinian state ever, with the power to declare war on other countries, and the Jews are not so dumb as to be pushed into gas chambers in their millions a second time, without firing a shot.

[ngb1066]

You're forgetting the hostages Hamas took on October 7, in addition to murdering 1139 Israeli citizens. Ramle is a mixed area, and with heightened tensions violence is not unexpected. I don't foresee an autonomous Palestinian state ever, with the power to declare war on other countries, and the Jews are not so dumb as to be pushed into gas chambers in their millions a second time, without firing a shot.

I am not forgetting anything. 

There is no point in debating with a fanatical apologist for the crimes of the Zionist state.

I believe that in due course Palestine will be free and the criminals will be held to account.