Iranian Strike

[David1819]

Iran has apparently launched 400-500 drones at Israel. Air space over Iraq and Jordan has been closed.

https://www.flightradar24.com/31.66,41.00/4

[gringo]

Iran has apparently launched 400-500 drones at Israel. Air space over Iraq and Jordan has been closed.

https://www.flightradar24.com/31.66,41.00/4

   Do you support any Western intervention?

[David1819]

Several Iranian drones flying toward Israel were intercepted over the sky in Erbil, likely by American Patriot air defense.

https://twitter.com/KurdistanWatch/status/1779284276892020910

[David1819]

   Do you support any Western intervention?

Depends how things transpire.

[gringo]

     US/UK /NATO should, but won't, stay out of this "regional spat". There was no condemnation of nor attempt to prevent the Israeli missile attack on Iranian diplomatic premises in Syria. A blatant "Act of War" by the Zionist state. Iran's legitimate response to this is none of US/UK's business and nor should we be involving ourselves. What do you think should happen when a country attacks another countries diplomatic premises in a third country? Nobody should be supporting and facilitating the war crimes of the Zionist occupiers.

[David1819]

First Iranian missiles impacting Israel

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1c3f6ph/first_iranian_missiles_impacting_israel/

[Roch]

Looks symbolic more than anything serious. If I was an IDF member I wouldn't fancy getting my leave cancelled to deal with this type of fallout from Bibi's actions.

[Hardy Boy]

Looks symbolic more than anything serious. If I was an IDF member I wouldn't fancy getting my leave cancelled to deal with this type of fallout from Bibi's actions.

Looked stage managed to me Roch, everyone knew it was coming, everything in place to deal with it.

[Hardy Boy]

I think if they wanted it to be effective, they would have had their Proxies engage at the same time, thus trying to overwhelm the defence system Israel have,  Giving warning that you have launched missiles is an announcement to your enemy so they can Prepare?

[gringo]

Looked stage managed to me Roch, everyone knew it was coming, everything in place to deal with it.

    I'd say it is a "measured response" rather than stage managed, HB. Iran claim to have "destroyed" the Nevatim Airbase from where the Embassy attack took place. Israel admit to "minor damage". We will see from the satellite pics over next few days. Regardless of this, it is undeniable that a great power shift is taking place.
    In the same way that it is dangerous to "corner a rat", it is also dangerous to corner a nuclear armed psychopath. The Collective West in this analogy are the dangerous nuclear armed psychopaths. The "death by a thousand cuts" strategy of the "Collective non-West" has so far kept the conflicts below the threshold of all out war between nuclear superpowers. It has also over the last 10 years or so been gaining strength at the expense of the collective West which has been weakened in every way(militarily, economically and reputationally).
      The Axis of Resistance is winning, NATO and their sponsors and co-conspirators are losing. The slowly boiling a frog strategy is more effective than cornering the rat.
     

[David1819]

99% of drones and missiles were intercepted.

https://www.ft.com/content/3416aae1-165c-4b97-aa57-4c1589f8e023

Will be interesting to see what happens next.

[Hardy Boy]

    I'd say it is a "measured response" rather than stage managed, HB. Iran claim to have "destroyed" the Nevatim Airbase from where the Embassy attack took place. Israel admit to "minor damage". We will see from the satellite pics over next few days. Regardless of this, it is undeniable that a great power shift is taking place.
    In the same way that it is dangerous to "corner a rat", it is also dangerous to corner a nuclear armed psychopath. The Collective West in this analogy are the dangerous nuclear armed psychopaths. The "death by a thousand cuts" strategy of the "Collective non-West" has so far kept the conflicts below the threshold of all out war between nuclear superpowers. It has also over the last 10 years or so been gaining strength at the expense of the collective West which has been weakened in every way(militarily, economically and reputationally).
      The Axis of Resistance is winning, NATO and their sponsors and co-conspirators are losing. The slowly boiling a frog strategy is more effective than cornering the rat.
     

For want of a better word Gringo i think your right and it was more a measured response, i personally think Israel was absolutley stupid and Reckless to do what they did when they attacked on the Iranian consulate in Damascus, they are putting the whole region at risk, my son inlaw is in IRAQ at this very moment and it's becoming a tinder box out there.

[gringo]

99% of drones and missiles were intercepted.

https://www.ft.com/content/3416aae1-165c-4b97-aa57-4c1589f8e023

Will be interesting to see what happens next.

    I would treat the 99% interception rate with a healthy dose of scepticism. The interception of missiles is the important metric. The drones are expected to be shot down hence the swarm attacks to overwhelm air defence systems followed by missiles to strike their targets. I would treat both claims(Iranians and Israelis) with scepticism until the picture clears. There is obviously damage to the Israeli air base, they admit this themselves.
     What happens next will indeed be interesting. It seems fairly clear that the "Axis of Resistance" hold "escalation dominance". Will Israel respond to the Iranian response? How can they respond without inviting an even greater attack. It has been demonstrated beyond a shadow of doubt that Iranian missiles can reach and hit their targets and that the Israeli AD systems would be helpless in the event of a large scale attack.
     
     The relative cost and availability of drones and missiles as opposed to AD interceptor missiles is the key factor. What do you think would be attrited first?

[gringo]

For want of a better word Gringo i think your right and it was more a measured response, i personally think Israel was absolutley stupid and Reckless to do what they did when they attacked on the Iranian consulate in Damascus, they are putting the whole region at risk, my son inlaw is in IRAQ at this very moment and it's becoming a tinder box out there.

    I agree with your assessment. Hope your son in law stays safe

[Steve_uk]

    I'd say it is a "measured response" rather than stage managed, HB. Iran claim to have "destroyed" the Nevatim Airbase from where the Embassy attack took place. Israel admit to "minor damage". We will see from the satellite pics over next few days. Regardless of this, it is undeniable that a great power shift is taking place.
    In the same way that it is dangerous to "corner a rat", it is also dangerous to corner a nuclear armed psychopath. The Collective West in this analogy are the dangerous nuclear armed psychopaths. The "death by a thousand cuts" strategy of the "Collective non-West" has so far kept the conflicts below the threshold of all out war between nuclear superpowers. It has also over the last 10 years or so been gaining strength at the expense of the collective West which has been weakened in every way(militarily, economically and reputationally).
      The Axis of Resistance is winning, NATO and their sponsors and co-conspirators are losing. The slowly boiling a frog strategy is more effective than cornering the rat.
     

The genie is out of the bottle. Whatever you think of the collective West as you call them Iran is now no longer hiding behind its proxies and in full view for the first time has attacked Israeli sovereign territory.