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Offline David1819

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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2024, 09:33:PM »

     The relative cost and availability of drones and missiles as opposed to AD interceptor missiles is the key factor. What do you think would be attrited first?

Should it ever come to that Israel would have to strike Iran's launch facilities and Iron Beam will be rushed into service sooner than anticipated.


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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2024, 11:16:PM »
The genie is out of the bottle. Whatever you think of the collective West as you call them Iran is now no longer hiding behind its proxies and in full view for the first time has attacked Israeli sovereign territory.
   There is zero doubt that the Iranian response to the Vienna Convention breaking Israeli attack on the Iranian diplomatic premises was an act of war. Iran’s response is legal according to any interpretation of International law. Israel’s unprovoked attack wasn’t legal by any interpretation of Int’l law. Is the consulate attack that started this wiped from your memory?

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2024, 11:34:PM »
   There is zero doubt that the Iranian response to the Vienna Convention breaking Israeli attack on the Iranian diplomatic premises was an act of war. Iran’s response is legal according to any interpretation of International law. Israel’s unprovoked attack wasn’t legal by any interpretation of Int’l law. Is the consulate attack that started this wiped from your memory?
I read it was next door. Ask yourself what the Iranian Revolutionary Guards are doing in Damascus in the first place.

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2024, 11:35:PM »
Should it ever come to that Israel would have to strike Iran's launch facilities and Iron Beam will be rushed into service sooner than anticipated.
   Israel couldn’t strike Iranian launch sites. How will they do this? You do know the distance between Iran and Israel, I take it. Iran’s sites are buried underground and in mountains. Israel have no ground based missile capability that could reach Iran, never mind take out their launch sites. Israeli planes can’t reach Iran without refuelling, airspace closed off to them. How are they going to achieve this objective? They can’t. You lack any insight into the strategies and messages being sent by these actions. Israel is in a bind now and anyone with any understanding knows this.
     To not respond to Iran after promises of retribution will show them as weak. Any response will meet with a further escalation from Iran who have demonstrated that they can strike any Israeli target. Iran have kept it restrained but demonstrative enough to show this. Israel cannot defend against advanced Iranian missiles.

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Re: Iranian Strike
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2024, 11:47:PM »
I read it was next door. Ask yourself what the Iranian Revolutionary Guards are doing in Damascus in the first place.
  Whatever the IRGC were doing there is irrelevant. They are there at the request and invite of the Syrian government. This is normal international relations. What were Israel doing bombing another country with whom they are not at war with and not have they been attacked by is the question you should be asking. Only war crime apologists ask stupid questions such as the one posed by you. You overlook the blatant crimes of Israel as if they don’t matter. Your bias renders your opinion worthless. You don’t even acknowledge the huge crimes of the Zionists. Crimes that are beyond reasonable debate-ignored by you.

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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2024, 01:37:AM »
   Israel couldn’t strike Iranian launch sites. How will they do this? You do know the distance between Iran and Israel, I take it. Iran’s sites are buried underground and in mountains. Israel have no ground based missile capability that could reach Iran, never mind take out their launch sites. Israeli planes can’t reach Iran without refuelling, airspace closed off to them. How are they going to achieve this objective?

The Israeli Jericho 3 has a range of 5000km. An F-16 can fly 4000km with drop tanks. Airtankers can refuel aircrafts as long as they have air cover. They also have ballistic submarines that do visit the Persian Gulf.

Considering there was hardly any damaged caused. It would be unwise (IMO) for Israeli to retaliate. The Islamic theocracy in Iran is not very popular at home, and they probably want a retaliation to rally the people.


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Re: Iranian Strike
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2024, 05:42:PM »
Seems a one-sided opinion but a good read nonetheless. I often wonder whether it's wishful thinking though.

https://thecradle.co/articles/how-irans-strategic-patience-switched-to-serious-deterrence

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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2024, 09:52:PM »
Seems a one-sided opinion but a good read nonetheless. I often wonder whether it's wishful thinking though.

https://thecradle.co/articles/how-irans-strategic-patience-switched-to-serious-deterrence
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2024, 09:59:PM »
Seems that everyone is atracking everyone with sleepy Joe in charge.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2024, 10:14:PM »
Seems that everyone is atracking everyone with sleepy Joe in charge.

Might as well have a corpse in charge. I'm not a fan of republicans whatsoever. But world affairs seem to have gone to shit since Trump lost.

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2024, 10:32:PM »
Might as well have a corpse in charge. I'm not a fan of republicans whatsoever. But world affairs seem to have gone to shit since Trump lost.

God knows what will happen in the next 4 years if Biden stays.

If Trump gets in can imagine waking up to a different headline every day. Something crazy he has said or done. Even more than last time.
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2024, 11:02:PM »
God knows what will happen in the next 4 years if Biden stays.

If Trump gets in can imagine waking up to a different headline every day. Something crazy he has said or done. Even more than last time.

More than likely yes.  I can't believe the democrats could be so stupid as to not replace Biden as the candidate. It's bewildering.

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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2024, 11:26:PM »
Does anyone else wonder whether this 'slight damage' claim is credible?

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2024, 11:51:PM »
More than likely yes.  I can't believe the democrats could be so stupid as to not replace Biden as the candidate. It's bewildering.

Just don't think it's something either party do. Replace a current President 

Carter, Bush snr & Trump were all behind in the polls but were allowed to fight for a second term. The Presidents themselves are too stubborn to step down.

Biden may win a second term.
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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2024, 12:02:AM »
This is interesting..