CCRC Demonstration

[ngb1066]

There will be a demonstration on Friday 10th May outside the CCRC offices in Birmingham.  It will highlight failings generally, with reference to several high profile cases.  Philip Walker will be speaking about Jeremy Bamber.  This is likely to generate publicity.

[Roch]

Can't really see the point of them. The CCRC. We need an agency that has the power and the will to expose police corruption and malpractice. The same for relevant agencies involved in a conviction. There should be no protection for such professionals and no amount of circling the wagons should be able to keep out a miscarriage of justice body from obtaining the truth. 

[ngb1066]

Can't really see the point of them. The CCRC. We need an agency that has the power and the will to expose police corruption and malpractice. The same for relevant agencies involved in a conviction. There should be no protection for such professionals and no amount of circling the wagons should be able to keep out a miscarriage of justice body from obtaining the truth.

I agree with you entirely Roch.

[David1819]

Is anyone here going?

[Steve_uk]

There will be a demonstration on Friday 10th May outside the CCRC offices in Birmingham.  It will highlight failings generally, with reference to several high profile cases.  Philip Walker will be speaking about Jeremy Bamber.  This is likely to generate publicity.

Don't forget: police shot Sheila, curtains were open and closed, Sheila rang 999, Julie lied. https://youtu.be/4gYixTc1lfk

[Steve_uk]

Is anyone here going?

No.

[ILB]

If it was on a weekend I could make it.

What a wasted life if innocent, 39 years and still fighting.

[Hardy Boy]

Can't really see the point of them. The CCRC. We need an agency that has the power and the will to expose police corruption and malpractice. The same for relevant agencies involved in a conviction. There should be no protection for such professionals and no amount of circling the wagons should be able to keep out a miscarriage of justice body from obtaining the truth.

I agree with what your saying Roch But i think also this is true what .......................The Westminster Commission on Miscarriages of Justice, set up to revisit the work of the CCRC after 25 years of operation, identified serious issues that risk miscarriages of justice remaining unidentified or unremedied Had to say.

Structure and resources: out of line with legislation
Our report examines the current structure of the CCRC, in the light of its founding legislation, and the resources that are needed for it to be effective. It considers that the diminished role of Commissioners in recent years is not in line with either the spirit or the intention of the legislation. We recommend that the role of the Chair and Commissioners should be strengthened, and the processes for their appointment should be reviewed, given the constitutional significance of the CCRC. The report also finds that the CCRC is significantly under-funded, a problem exacerbated by the financial restrictions on the public provision of advice and representation for applicants, and recommends that this should be remedied. The report does not, however, suggest saving money by limiting the CCRC’s workload through removing certain cases from its remit, not least because all wrongful convictions or sentences have a lasting impact.

This to me is one of the reasons why they are heavily worked in what they say here............ however, suggest saving money by limiting the CCRC’s workload through removing certain cases from its remit,

A Sex offender who Sexualy abused a 13 year old Girl, pleads guilty in a Court of Law to the offence, he got 8 months Prison, he served 4 months of this sentence, what does he do when he comes out, he applies to the CCRC for a MOJ review, he cannot appeal his Guilty plea, he is appealing the length of Sentence only and yet he's out of Prison and very lucky to have only served Four months, why did he appeal.............Purley and simply as a badge of honour for his CV for when he's up in Court again or finding work.  It doesn't look good that he pleaded guilty in Court, it looks better if he can say he has Appealed though.

Someone from the CCRC has to spend time looking into this Sex Offender's case and taking them away from a Proper MOJ case.

[Jane]

I agree with what your saying Roch But i think also this is true what .......................The Westminster Commission on Miscarriages of Justice, set up to revisit the work of the CCRC after 25 years of operation, identified serious issues that risk miscarriages of justice remaining unidentified or unremedied Had to say.

Structure and resources: out of line with legislation
Our report examines the current structure of the CCRC, in the light of its founding legislation, and the resources that are needed for it to be effective. It considers that the diminished role of Commissioners in recent years is not in line with either the spirit or the intention of the legislation. We recommend that the role of the Chair and Commissioners should be strengthened, and the processes for their appointment should be reviewed, given the constitutional significance of the CCRC. The report also finds that the CCRC is significantly under-funded, a problem exacerbated by the financial restrictions on the public provision of advice and representation for applicants, and recommends that this should be remedied. The report does not, however, suggest saving money by limiting the CCRC’s workload through removing certain cases from its remit, not least because all wrongful convictions or sentences have a lasting impact.

This to me is one of the reasons why they are heavily worked in what they say here............ however, suggest saving money by limiting the CCRC’s workload through removing certain cases from its remit,

A Sex offender who Sexualy abused a 13 year old Girl, pleads guilty in a Court of Law to the offence, he got 8 months Prison, he served 4 months of this sentence, what does he do when he comes out, he applies to the CCRC for a MOJ review, he cannot appeal his Guilty plea, he is appealing the length of Sentence only and yet he's out of Prison and very lucky to have only served Four months, why did he appeal.............Purley and simply as a badge of honour for his CV for when he's up in Court again or finding work.  It doesn't look good that he pleaded guilty in Court, it looks better if he can say he has Appealed though.

Someone from the CCRC has to spend time looking into this Sex Offender's case and taking them away from a Proper MOJ case.

Thankyou for that, HB. It reminds us that there's another side to the coin. Whilst I appreciate that it's wrong to keep the innocent in prison, it's equally -more?- wrong to allow the guilty the freedom to commit further crimes.

[Roch]

Thankyou for that, HB. It reminds us that there's another side to the coin. Whilst I appreciate that it's wrong to keep the innocent in prison, it's equally -more?- wrong to allow the guilty the freedom to commit further crimes.

HB's post is interesting. But I find your rationale difficult to deal with Jane. It's not a case of either or.  The two matters should not be linked. Yet you attempt to link them.

[Hardy Boy]

Thankyou for that, HB. It reminds us that there's another side to the coin. Whilst I appreciate that it's wrong to keep the innocent in prison, it's equally -more?- wrong to allow the guilty the freedom to commit further crimes.

I agree Jane, the Victims rights are always second thought to these sort of Protests, some of these People want to live the life of someone who has been Sexualy Abused, or had their loved one killeda thenl also live through the experience of the Offender Appealing to the CCRC time after time.

I would personally see my well earn't money going towards more funding to fight Cancers and Crime, rather than some Pervert spouting his mouth off how badly he's been treated and listen to the Verbal Diarrhea coming from the Likes of Peter Thatchel, who by all accounts wants to Normalise this sort of Behaviour in Children.

But Mr Tatchell has long been dogged by accusations of being a paedophile apologist.

He faced a storm of criticism in 1997 for writing a letter to The Guardian in defence of another controversial book. In the letter, he claimed that some of his friends “had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused”......... his denials have been called into question by his review of the same book, still available in the archives of the British Library.

Headlined “Radical thoughts on consent”, Mr Tatchell noted in the review that Middleton had “found it impossible to get a publisher”

He continued: “I am only writing this review because it seems that no one else is willing to risk association with this taboo subject.”

He wrote that while the authors “oppose coercive and exploitative child sexual abuse” they “also argue that consenting, victimless sexual relationships between younger and older people should not be penalised by the law”.

[David1819]

HB's post is interesting. But I find your rationale difficult to deal with Jane. It's not a case of either or.  The two matters should not be linked. Yet you attempt to link them.

Bold of you assume there was any rationale in the first place.

[ILB]

I may  attend. Anybody else going ?

[BarefootDanC]

If I lived a bit nearer to Birmingham, I would be tempted to turn up just to public humiliate one or two of them by calling out their bullying behaviour on Facebook, including their "jokes" about rape.

[BarefootDanC]

Can't really see the point of them. The CCRC. We need an agency that has the power and the will to expose police corruption and malpractice. The same for relevant agencies involved in a conviction. There should be no protection for such professionals and no amount of circling the wagons should be able to keep out a miscarriage of justice body from obtaining the truth.

The sole purpose of the CCRC is to consider whether a convict might have grounds to appeal their conviction or sentence.