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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1410 on: April 23, 2024, 05:21:PM »
Easy to drive
Easy to cycle
Easy to walk.

Each one comes with its own pros and cons.

Cons of driving:

Goes past at least 45 properties.

Goes past at least 500 people.

Goes past potential security cameras.

Head Street is very enclosed. Awake residents will hear a vehicle.

Head Street very enclosed. Residents would be able to identify Bamber's vehicle as the moving vehicle.

Car may break down.

Will have to walk up Pages Lane.


Pros:

Not as physically tiring as walking.

Much quicker than walking.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1411 on: April 23, 2024, 05:37:PM »
Easy to drive
Easy to cycle
Easy to walk.

Each one comes with its own pros and cons.

Cons of cycling:

Could get a puncture.


Pros of cycling:

Quick.

Uses minimal energy.

Silent.

Goes past one/no properties.

Off the main roads.

Good terrain compared to walking over fields.

Would have a plan B in unlikely event bike does get a puncture
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1412 on: April 23, 2024, 05:49:PM »
The cycling pros/cons relate to The Sea Wall route.

Things such as uneven surface, insects & waist high styles I do not believe are worthy of being included as a 'con'.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1413 on: April 23, 2024, 06:20:PM »
Do you agree spending over 2 hours walking 5.4 miles across fields would be too tiring and time consuming?
He probably walked for 70 minutes. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1414 on: April 23, 2024, 06:37:PM »
He probably walked for 70 minutes. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

That's 140 minutes of walking. Across fields.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1415 on: April 23, 2024, 06:48:PM »
That's an 140 minutes of walking. Across fields.
It's possible, if the Recovery television programme finished at 11pm. It's smoke and mirrors, as the main point being lost is that Jeremy Bamber has no alibi for the period in question.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1416 on: April 23, 2024, 07:03:PM »
It's possible, if the Recovery television programme finished at 11pm. It's smoke and mirrors, as the main point being lost is that Jeremy Bamber has no alibi for the period in question.

Why do you think he brought the bike over just before the massacre?
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1417 on: April 23, 2024, 07:05:PM »
Why do you think he brought the bike over just before the massacre?
He probably hadn't decided fully whether or how to proceed. Remember he told Julie: "It's now or never." The tragedy is it could have been never.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1418 on: April 23, 2024, 07:14:PM »
He probably hadn't decided fully whether or how to proceed. Remember he told Julie: "It's now or never." The tragedy is it could have been never.

He would be gutted if he walked it & the bike has since  been such a major plank in the prosecution case.

His feet would have been aching for hours afterwards.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1419 on: April 23, 2024, 07:20:PM »
As said before I don't know how Wilkinson could walk The Sea Wall route in 70 mins, then only manage to cycle it in 35 minutes.

He said it was good, level terrain.

Suspect Wilkinson was making notes as he cycled.

Bamber's estimation of 15 minutes is more accurate.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1420 on: April 23, 2024, 07:21:PM »
Do you agree spending over 2 hours walking 5.4 miles across fields would be too tiring and time consuming?

Think both walking and cycling are pissing about.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1421 on: April 23, 2024, 07:29:PM »
Think both walking and cycling are pissing about.

Agree with walking.

Don't believe Bamber's 15 minute estimation of cycling would be considered too much 'pissing about' by him.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1422 on: April 23, 2024, 08:57:PM »
Agree with walking.

Don't believe Bamber's 15 minute estimation of cycling would be considered too much 'pissing about' by him.

As said I believe he drove.

Don't think nobody would have seen him.

I don't think he was worried about even been seen or it even entered his thought process
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1423 on: April 23, 2024, 09:03:PM »
65%, 68% or three quarters.

This together with stars in an open area will create good night vision for Bamber.

As I posted before a 65% Moon phase does not provide 65% of the illumination provided by a full Moon because the direction of light hitting the Moon is at a different angle.

You would get very little help from the stars.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1424 on: April 23, 2024, 09:06:PM »
A guy who does something like this is a natural risk taker.

If you believe he's gulity, elements of his behaviour post massacre are risky, in the sense of appearing gulity, selling off stuff, callously putting the dog down " cos it will knacker my stereo " selling pictures of Shelia to the sun, drinking benders, drug benders,  all in view of the police.

After the crime if gulity he didn't try to cover his tracks, " he was like fuck it, it's time to party, he apparently even said" right that's it times up"  after his dying swan funeral act.

And to tell a woman of what he's done when he's playing around on the side with other women , and he's planning to leave her confirms. Shows his " recklessness" but the car journey isn't " reckless"

There's no way he wouldn't drive through fear of being seen.
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