Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall

[Adam]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11732.msg539591.html#msg539591

Here is another video of The Sea Wall. The man walking it.

Obviously if you can walk normally on terrain, you can also cycle on it.

[ILB]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11732.msg539591.html#msg539591

Here is another video of The Sea Wall. The man walking it.

Obviously if you can walk normally on terrain, you can also cycle on it.

As said I plan to replicate the 2am journey.

[Adam]

The Brook House Farm route is the route he would have driven. Would rather cycle that route than drive.

Silent and a smaller object to be spotted. Unlikely anyone would see him from inside there properties as there was no street lighting. Perfect terrain for cycling. It would take less than 15 minutes to cycle and not use up much energy.

But the prosecution said he cycled The Sea Wall.

[ILB]

The Brook House Farm route is the route he would have driven. Would rather cycle that route than drive.

Silent and a smaller object to be spotted. Unlikely anyone would see him from inside there properties as there was no street lighting. Perfect terrain for cycling. It would take less than 15 minutes to cycle and not use up much energy.

But the prosecution said he cycled The Sea Wall.

There are actually two routes he could have drove.

I'm not sure what the agenda was anymore

Seems the prosecution and COA are saying he walked there.

[Adam]

There are actually two routes he could have drove.

I'm not sure what the agenda was anymore

Seems the prosecution and COA are saying he walked there.

The prosecution are saying he cycled there and back -

COA:

The Prosecution Case at Trial 145. The prosecution case at trial was that the appellant, motivated by hatred and greed, had planned and carried out the killings. Having left White House Farm at about 10 p.m. on Tuesday 6 August 1985 he had returned by bicycle (taking a route which avoided the main roads) in the early hours of the following morning.

[ILB]

The prosecution are saying he cycled there and back -

COA:

The Prosecution Case at Trial 145. The prosecution case at trial was that the appellant, motivated by hatred and greed, had planned and carried out the killings. Having left White House Farm at about 10 p.m. on Tuesday 6 August 1985 he had returned by bicycle (taking a route which avoided the main roads) in the early hours of the following morning.

That does not day he made the outward journey via cycle.

It says he returned by cycle.

[Adam]

That does not day he made the outward journey via cycle.

It says he returned by cycle.

It says he left WHF around 10pm (supper). Then returned by bike.

[ILB]

Seems the CT are doing a walk themselves.

[Adam]

Even the CT say 'difficulties, rather than impossibility.

No one's suggesting a red carpet was laid out for his cycle ride. But the reward was worth the 'difficulties'.

[ILB]

Even the CT say 'difficulties, rather than impossibility.

No one's suggesting a red carpet was laid out for his cycle ride. But the reward was worth the 'difficulties'.

Bamber will have been the one who will have suggested they do this you know.

Seems everything has to be ran by Jeremy for his approval.

He calls the sea wall scenario " laughable and madness "

They are going with the intention to convey that the route wasn't practical to do.

Otherwise what else would be the point? They are his campaign team. When I go I am just going for self interest as an independent.

[Zoso]

Seems the CT are doing a walk themselves.

 

[ILB]

Although on the fence I must admit I never liked the grave reading bake off or things like this.

I think case related protests are ok though.

[Adam]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://podtail.com/en/podcast/jeremy-bamber-and-white-house-farm/&ved=2ahUKEwj0h9Gqp7CFAxXvUEEAHYMzBhcQFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw25_fzEWrTrGbq-A5NKDjjB

Barbara D'eath interview.

[Adam]

Listened to the first 20 minutes.

BD still has not said why she would be on Bamber's Sea Wall route. Which was up to 5 miles away from the Osea Leisure Park.

Disappointed Phillip & Yvonne said they only walked some of the  the route from Goldhanger for 45 minutes. Then gave up & turned back. Wilkinson said in 85 it took him 70 minutes to walk. Suspect they got disillusioned as the terrain was adequate.

Phillip & Yvonne did say they also walked some of the route from WHF. Assume that is down Pages Lane and the adjoined farm track to The Sea Wall.

Disagree with Phillip that June's bike would get a puncture after 50 yards. Bikes are made for cycling. On roads, pavements, grass & farm tracks. Can only recall two punctures since getting my first bike at around 8. Wilkinson did not get a puncture.

Don't agree ducks & insects maybe being on the Sea Wall would have deterred Bamber.

Phillip did say Bamber would have been spotted from afar. This must be due to the good ambient light GG mentioned.

As said before, if it can walked, it can be cycled.

So far Phillip and Yvonne have not said they went there at night. Which is surprising. They could have taken photos of the outside darkness & anyone on The Sea Wall and interviewed these mysterious night fishermen.

[Cambridgecutie]

Listened to the first 20 minutes.

Disagree with Phillip that June's bike would get a puncture after 50 yards. Bikes are made for cycling. On roads, pavements, grass & farm tracks. Can only recall two punctures since getting my first bike at around 8. Wilkinson did not get a puncture.

You'd be very unlucky to get a puncture cycling along footpaths/bridleways and byways.

I cycle all the time along byways and bridleways, often on long forgotten bridleways too, which are overgrown, and still manage to get across in one piece.  It is rare to get a puncture.

Jeremy Bamber would have been unlucky to get a puncture that night, but if he had, I reckon he would have just given up.  Had he got a puncture he may have decided not to murder his family. 

What is more telling though, is that Bamber supporters are so willing to make a statement that they know has no relationship with the truth.  It shows that they are willing to just make stuff up to make a story fit with their innocence scenario.

They wouldn't have to do any of that if there was any actual evidence that showed Jeremy Bamber to be innocent.  They know that there is overwhelming evidence to show that Jeremy Bamber is guilty, and that Sheila is innocent.

And so they lie.  And they even lie when they don't need to.