Alternative bedroom ambush scenario.

[ILB]

Point 13. Once Bamber has shot June he can go after Nevill. Nevill by that time would be dazed. I doubt he would leg it from WHF and leave his wife daughter and grandchildren with a murderous gunman. However of course Bamber will easily catch up with him and after shooting June does.

[ILB]

Does Adam realise this is a forum?

Does he expect me to post " Yes Adam" " three bags full Adam " constantly ?

Seems genuinely aggrieved by scenarios that he doesn't like.

[Adam]

Hopefully Rob will give his view on this new bedroom scenario.

He has always said Bamber is innocent because he would not shoot June first.

If he finds ILB's ambush scenario plausible he may change stance. If not, he will stick with his current thinking.

[Adam]

Just remembered Snow has done a Bamber scenario. I will look at it.

[Adam]

Would like some more feedback from guilters. Appreciate they may be more interested in the cases personalities than scenarios.

All I know from Steve is he believes the twins were shot first, once each & Jane does not believe June would scream after her shots. Zoso only discusses evidence on Bubo bubo's scenarios.

The 'nobody knows what happened' line is not very strong. Something did happen & the crime scene evidence has been online for years. So everyone will have an opinion.

[Adam]

Be good to know from fellow guilters whether they agree with me & CAL -

June was shot first 5 times which resulted in an in bed Nevill reacting.

If not, what do they believe happened.

[Adam]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11038.msg512532.html#msg512532

Snow agrees with me and CAL -

'We know roughly what happens next,he goes to Nev/Junes bedroom empties the rifle,Nev ends up in the kitchen'.

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Nothing about Nevill or June being awake.

[Hardy Boy]

Be good to know from fellow guilters whether they agree with me & CAL -

June was shot first 5 times which resulted in an in bed Nevill reacting.

If not, what do they believe happened.

If we go by what you think..........that  the Twins were shot first there is a greater possibility that Neville was out of Bed, youv'e lost the surprise/ambush by taking out the least threat and risked a direct confrontation with the main man?

[snow66!]

Just remembered Snow has done a Bamber scenario. I will look at it.

Make sure you look at the ones with the Aga burns Adam!

[snow66!]

Would like some more feedback from guilters. Appreciate they may be more interested in the cases personalities than scenarios.

All I know from Steve is he believes the twins were shot first, once each & Jane does not believe June would scream after her shots. Zoso only discusses evidence on Bubo bubo's scenarios.

The 'nobody knows what happened' line is not very strong. Something did happen & the crime scene evidence has been online for years. So everyone will have an opinion.

The Aga evidence is relatively recent and must be included in all future scenarios!

[Adam]

If we go by what you think..........that  the Twins were shot first there is a greater possibility that Neville was out of Bed, youv'e lost the surprise/ambush by taking out the least threat and risked a direct confrontation with the main man?

Yes I believe the twins were shot first - once each. Leaving 9 bullets for the main bedroom.

Don't believe that would make  much noise with silencer attached.

[Adam]

CAL believes he shot Nevill and June first. Which refutes Julie's WS.

If so, surprising he only loaded 9 bullets.

This would mean the twins were shot mid massacre. Or even last. They would have slept through everything, as I believe Sheila did.

[Hardy Boy]

Yes I believe the twins were shot first - once each. Leaving 9 bullets for the main bedroom.

Don't believe that would make  much noise with silencer attached.

I don't think you or Bamber would have any idea how much noise or sound it would carry in the still of night, do you think the dog would react to gun shot noise?  It's a very very risky start to any planned Ambush or surprise attack for his main threat.....Neville and could have alerted the whole house.

[Adam]

Have to say mine, CAL & Snow's bedroom scenario is a lot more straight forward than ILB's -

Bamber empties rifle on an in bed June/Nevill. Nevill survives upstairs & is not physically confronted as Bamber wants to avoid potential injuries.

[Adam]

I don't think you or Bamber would have any idea how much noise or sound it would carry in the still of night, do you think the dog would react to gun shot noise?  It's a very very risky start to any planned Ambush or surprise attack for his main threat.....Neville and could have alerted the whole house.

I have posted a video of the rifle with silencer. I could barely hear it with my phone to my ear.

Seems you agree with mine, CAL's & Snow's bedroom ambush scenario. However believe he entered the main bedroom first with 9 bullets.