Possibility of Bamber re loading upstairs after shooting the twins first 8 times

[Adam]

Julie says Bamber told her the twins were shot first. Which is plausible.

However supporters have said shooting the twins first 8 times and then going downstairs to re load means there is more chance of being heard. Which I agree with.

So I have always said he went upstairs with 11 bullets and shot the twins once each. Then went into the main bedroom with the remaining 9 bullets - 5 to June, 4 to Nevill.

Another possibility is he shot the twins first, 8 times. Then re loaded upstairs.

[Adam]

The problems I have with him shooting the twins 8 times first & then re loading upstairs are -

Why didn't he re load upstairs with 11 bullets?

He may have intially been going for an 11 shot massacre. So could only afford one bullet each into the twins.

A possibility he shot the twins last. Very likely they would sleep through the downstairs fight.

Why shoot the twins 8 times straight away? One bullet each would kill/negate them. He can always return to them later.

[Adam]

Agree it would not be difficult to carry some extra bullets upstairs.

The expert opinion that it looks like the bullets into the twins were fired in quick succession will be correct. However a strong possibility these were bullets 3-8 and did not include bullets 1 & 2.

As SteveUK said, firing once each into the twins means he can make sure the rifle is working. It is also a way to psych himself up. Once they are shot once each there is no turning back.  He will not hesitate on Nevill and June.

[ILB]

How can a supporter of Jeremy Bamber give an answer to this?

Biased thread, no validity, invented, not allowed

[Adam]

The advantages of shooting the twins first, (once each), are -

Negates 2 people.

Still 9 bullets left.

Still a chance of an 11 shot massacre.

Quick.

Quiet.

Tests the rifle.

Psyches himself up.

[Adam]

The only advantage of shooting the twins 8 times first & re loading upstairs, is he can put 11 bullets into the rifle.

However the evidence is he only fired 9 bullets when first entering the main bedroom. So it seems he only shot the twins first, once each. 

[Rob_]

The only advantage of shooting the twins 8 times first & re loading upstairs, is he can put 11 bullets into the rifle.

However the evidence is he only fired 9 bullets when first entering the main bedroom. So it seems he only shot the twins first, once each.

Why does Bamber use 25 shots when he knows questions might be asked about Sheilas ability to reload the rifle?

He could easily have carried out the massacre with one magazine and I don't think anyone would question this too much?

Sorry but to me everything points to Sheila, the wounds to Nevil are classic of attacks by people with paranoid schizophrenia.

[Adam]

Why does Bamber use 25 shots when he knows questions might be asked about Sheilas ability to reload the rifle?

He could easily have carried out the massacre with one magazine and I don't think anyone would question this too much?

Sorry but to me everything points to Sheila, the wounds to Nevil are classic of attacks by people with paranoid schizophrenia.

He may have been going for an 11 shot massacre. Shooting the twins first, once each.

However Nevill woke as June was being shot. So plan B came into force.

If you had the rifle what would your plan be? -

Shoot June and Nevill first with 9 bullets. 

Shoot the twins first. Once each.

Shoot the twins 8 times. Re load upstairs.

Shoot the twins first 8 times. Re load downstairs.

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Bamber did one of these.

[Rob_]

He may have been going for an 11 shot massacre. Shooting the twins first, once each.

However Nevill woke as June was being shot. So plan B came into force.

If you had the rifle what would your plan be? -

Shoot June and Nevill first with 9 bullets. 

Shoot the twins first. Once each.

Shoot the twins 8 times. Re load upstairs.

Shoot the twins first 8 times. Re load downstairs.

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Bamber did one of these.

Rubbish if going for a 11 shot massacre Nevil would be shot first before June.

Why do the shots come in multiples of 8 or thereabouts? Is it because after loading 7 or 8 bullets the magazine gets too stiff for Sheila to load any more bullets?

[Adam]

Rubbish if going for a 11 shot massacre Nevil would be shot first before June.

Why do the shots come in multiples of 8 or thereabouts? Is it because after loading 7 or 8 bullets the magazine gets too stiff for Sheila to load any more bullets?

He could have been going for an 11 shot massacre by shooting the twins first once each.

Thinking 8 bullets were enough for June and Nevill.

He opened fire on June and Nevill with 9 bullets in the rifle. Only he knows if that was the first room he entered.

[ILB]

This is fucking stupid this thread. Excuse my language.

The guy maintains innocence.

How can an individual who supports JBs innocence even make a comment.

[Adam]

I don't believe he shot the twins first 8 times. Then re loaded upstairs or downstairs.

Also do not believe he would enter the main bedroom first with only 9 bullets.

So the most logical explanation is he went upstairs with 11 bullets. Shot the twins, once each. Then entered the main bedroom with 9 bullets.

The order of the main bedroom 9 shots has already been posted.

[Adam]

His aim when entering the main bedroom with 9 bullets, may have been to only fire 8 bullets. Which would keep him on course for an 11 shot massacre.

However Nevill reacting scuppered that possibility.

In hindsight, it may have been better to enter the main bedroom with 11 bullets and discharge them all.

This means there was no chance of an 11 shot massacre. However discharging 11 bullets in the main bedroom would have made a big difference in negating Nevill.

[Adam]

There is a possibility he entered the main bedroom first with 11 bullets. With the aim of firing 8 bullets & being on course for an 11 shot massacre. 

However discharged 9 in error in all the excitement of Nevill reacting.

But then no reason to tell Julie the twins were shot first. It is also likely he would discharge all 11 when Nevill reacted.

[Adam]

Sheila re loading twice has been very damaging since 1985.

She did not know how to or had the mental & physical ability to. There is no evidence on her hands & fingers she did.

Bamber may have been going for an 11 shot massacre. But this was not essential for him.

He would not have forseen how damaging Sheila re loading twice would become. He thought his plan was watertight in the first place & wouldn't be investigated much.