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Offline ILB

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Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« on: December 20, 2023, 09:24:PM »
If he does get a referral from the march 2021 submission. Then I don't expect a COA hearing until 2025 at least.

A CCRC knockback will put Jeremy Bamber back to square one. He turns 63 in January, is there much gas left in the tank for Jeremy? I have discovered that he has been quite ill as of late. Not talking about him kicking the bucket as such, but I'll health and imprisoment will take its toll when trying to champion his cause

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2023, 12:11:AM »
I think their tactics are to play the long game, in the hope that he passes before they are finally cornered into making a decision.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2023, 05:32:PM »
Does anybody have an update on Jeremy’s health?

I didn’t know he was ill and would like some more info please.

TIA

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2023, 05:58:PM »
Does anybody have an update on Jeremy’s health?

I didn’t know he was ill and would like some more info please.

TIA

Jeremy has been very unwell.  He is getting better but is still not back to full strength.  He has been having a rough time.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2023, 11:58:PM »
Thank you.

I’ve dropped him a letter today and will hopefully know more in due course.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2023, 11:14:AM »
I believe he has been suffering with a severe chest infection
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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2023, 06:35:PM »
Thank you ILB 🙏

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2023, 10:16:PM »
Thank you ILB 🙏

Not a problem.

I hope 2024 is Jeremy's year but I remain as I guess he does as well deep down somewhat skeptical
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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2023, 02:13:PM »
I hope 2024 is Jeremy's year but I remain as I guess he does as well deep down somewhat skeptical

The only thing that could free Jeremy is an absolutely solid defence-based documentary. A program that ruthlessly stuck to certainties rather than biased assessments of evidence. A program designed to help the viewer come to their own conclusion, based on a factual blow by blow deconstruction of prosecution evidence. Something well made, with money behind it and experts' findings within it, with explanations provided alongside, so that the viewer is effectively walked through the labyrinth, with context. 

Not a small undertaking by any means.  Yet with such a film, it would be possible to lay bear many flaws not just with the prosecution evidence, but with the tactics and the applied processes of the authorities, from Essex Police upwards, through the justice system hierarchy.

I don't think this is doable in 1 hour.

Freedom for JB will only come when the public are educated in the facts contrary to what they have been sold by EP/CAL Studios Ltd. And such people involved are exposed to the point where there is no comeback available to them.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2023, 02:36:PM »
I think their tactics are to play the long game, in the hope that he passes before they are finally cornered into making a decision.

To be fair to the CCRC, Jeremy Bamber's team took 10 years to produce their mammoth 2021 submission, so if it took Bamber's team 10 years to produce their submission then surely it shouldn't be any surprise if the CCRC take a few years to reply.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2023, 03:16:PM »
The only thing that could free Jeremy is an absolutely solid defence-based documentary. A program that ruthlessly stuck to certainties rather than biased assessments of evidence. A program designed to help the viewer come to their own conclusion, based on a factual blow by blow deconstruction of prosecution evidence. Something well made, with money behind it and experts' findings within it, with explanations provided alongside, so that the viewer is effectively walked through the labyrinth, with context. 

Not a small undertaking by any means.  Yet with such a film, it would be possible to lay bear many flaws not just with the prosecution evidence, but with the tactics and the applied processes of the authorities, from Essex Police upwards, through the justice system hierarchy.

I don't think this is doable in 1 hour.

Freedom for JB will only come when the public are educated in the facts contrary to what they have been sold by EP/CAL Studios Ltd. And such people involved are exposed to the point where there is no comeback available to them.
I think a lot could be achieved in an hour. If they took say 6 key issues and devoted 10 minutes to debunk each of them it would be enough.
1 Two silencers
2 The window catch
3 NB's body and the Aga
4 Statement manipulation (the clearest examples)
5 The swapped bullet
6 The false timeline

Feel free to add other contenders
Fire debris, NB's call, the bible, etc etc.

Trying to lay out all the stuff we have discussed and know about might be confusing and counterproductive and do more harm than good. Better to keep it focused in the fist instance and let the social media snow storm get to work with the multitude of other issues as they fight to come up with exclusive additional items. Keep it simple and punchy would be my approach.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2023, 03:42:PM »
Two of the points have been dismissed. According to the CT.  Which has taken over 2 years to do.

A final dismissal will be in the second half of this decade.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2023, 03:51:PM »
The CT are saying they are not happy with how long the CCRC are taking. However if the CCRC gave a quick dismissal the CT will complain they did not spend enough time!

Either way Bamber will seek a 'Judicial Review' after the dismissal.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2023, 03:59:PM »
Believe the 2002 & 2012 referrals to the CCRC were based on one point - DNA, Nevill's burn marks.

This time there are 8 points. None of the points are strong enough to stand on there own. So multiple points have been submitted. Using the percentages tactic.

So the CT can't complain about how long it takes.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber 2024.
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2023, 06:40:PM »
Believe the 2002 & 2012 referrals to the CCRC were based on one point - DNA, Nevill's burn marks.

This time there are 8 points. None of the points are strong enough to stand on there own. So multiple points have been submitted. Using the percentages tactic.

So the CT can't complain about how long it takes.

The 2002 appeal was based a referral from the CCRC on one point - new DNA evidence, although much to the Court of Appeal's irritation, the Court of Appeal had to consider 15 grounds (with multiple arguments within each ground).

The 2012 Judicial Review was one ground - as you say the burn marks - but there were many grounds submitted to the CCRC during the 2004-2011 period. (For example, a photo of Sheila still bleeding in 2004), but Bamber's lawyer was wise enough only to challenge the burn marks theory at the 2012 Judicial Review.

It's worth noting that there are always "multiple grounds".