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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2023, 08:23:PM »
Wonder how he knows Sheila was in the kitchen when the police entered.

Has he seen a document no one else has?

Thought the police would have destroyed such a document as part of the frame.

My personal opinion is that he doesn't know for sure and is riding heavily on the " one dead female in kitchen " saga  from the raid team WS.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2023, 08:24:PM »
Makes you wonder why he didn't mention this in his first witness statement or first interview with DCI Jones during August 85 or his later interviews under caution during September 85 but not a word.

You would have to ask either Jeremy Bamber himself that question, or Bruce Bowler or Richard Pirie.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2023, 12:24:PM »
You would have to ask either Jeremy Bamber himself that question, or Bruce Bowler or Richard Pirie.

As you know, Bamber doesn't like answering those kinds of questions.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2023, 07:11:PM »
As you know, Bamber doesn't like answering those kinds of questions.

I can't remember how much was in my dad's wallet in 1985 to be fair either
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2023, 07:36:PM »
I can't remember how much was in my dad's wallet in 1985 to be fair either
The suspicion is that in those early hours of 7th August 1985 he dithered on whether to take the money out of the wallet, take the money with the wallet or leave them both in situ.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2023, 08:10:PM »
The suspicion is that in those early hours of 7th August 1985 he dithered on whether to take the money out of the wallet, take the money with the wallet or leave them both in situ.

He was never cross examined about the matter in a legal setting.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2023, 10:15:PM »
I can't remember how much was in my dad's wallet in 1985 to be fair either

You went around looking in it?

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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2023, 06:36:AM »
You went around looking in it?

Don't think he even had one to be honest, he was a " readies " man.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2023, 01:20:PM »
Don't think he even had one to be honest, he was a " readies " man.

Sounds like mine so, there you go then! Not that I really want to discuss this again - it's not aa usual thing to know. By the way (to whom it may concern)- I'm not interested in theories of how he may have known - it's been done to death (and I don't buy any of them).
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2023, 10:48:PM »
Sounds like mine so, there you go then! Not that I really want to discuss this again - it's not aa usual thing to know. By the way (to whom it may concern)- I'm not interested in theories of how he may have known - it's been done to death (and I don't buy any of them).

I'm going to hazard a guess you are from the council estates like me Zoso!,

Jeremy, however was from privilege, I don't see someone like Nevill stumbling in from the pub and leaving his jeans at the top of stairs with shrapnel five pound notes falling all over the place.

Jeremys Wallet situation with you from my perspective may indicate gulit, but it may be mundane.

I don't know what to believe to be honest, All interpretations are open and I am on record on here saying if you believe that ( perhaps amognst other things signifies gulit then so be it.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2023, 11:53:PM »
I'm going to hazard a guess you are from the council estates like me Zoso!,

Jeremy, however was from privilege, I don't see someone like Nevill stumbling in from the pub and leaving his jeans at the top of stairs with shrapnel five pound notes falling all over the place.

Jeremys Wallet situation with you from my perspective may indicate gulit, but it may be mundane.

I don't know what to believe to be honest, All interpretations are open and I am on record on here saying if you believe that ( perhaps amognst other things signifies gulit then so be it.

I am indeed

I don't think the wallet 'alone' signifies guilt and would have been perfectly happy to accept his explanation for something that just bugged me at the time. There was no explanation forthcoming - just cryptic, non-specific fob-offs. The result was, it bugged me more. It's not the reason I think he's guilty, it just added weight to an aready changing mind.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2023, 05:59:PM »
I'm going to hazard a guess you are from the council estates like me Zoso!,

Jeremy, however was from privilege, I don't see someone like Nevill stumbling in from the pub and leaving his jeans at the top of stairs with shrapnel five pound notes falling all over the place.

Jeremys Wallet situation with you from my perspective may indicate gulit, but it may be mundane.

I don't know what to believe to be honest, All interpretations are open and I am on record on here saying if you believe that ( perhaps amognst other things signifies gulit then so be it.
No, but where was Nevill's wallet normally kept? One assumes he didn't take it with him on the tractor. His habit was to shower after work downstairs then move into the lounge for a gin and tonic. Was the wallet put in the safe during the day, or kept in a cupboard in the master bedroom? It wasn't secure in the safe anyway as Jeremy had a key, unless Barbara Wilson had changed the lock only very recently.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2023, 06:26:PM »
No, but where was Nevill's wallet normally kept? One assumes he didn't take it with him on the tractor. His habit was to shower after work downstairs then move into the lounge for a gin and tonic. Was the wallet put in the safe during the day, or kept in a cupboard in the master bedroom? It wasn't secure in the safe anyway as Jeremy had a key, unless Barbara Wilson had changed the lock only very recently.

Where does a man keep his wallet while he sleeps? it's a broad question isn't it?

Me personally, I always put both my wallet and car and keys on the bedside table.

So many interpretations can be made about the wallet question.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2023, 06:28:PM »
How many tractors were there at WHF?

I know that driving the tractor was one of Jeremy's key roles
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Re: Jeremy Bamber gives an account of the night in question
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2023, 06:34:PM »
How many tractors were there at WHF?

I know that driving the tractor was one of Jeremy's key roles
It has been suggested there was a row over who should bring in the last load of rape seed. It might indicate that Jeremy left in a hurry, and was still in two minds as to whether the crimes should be committed or not, hence the "it's now or never" remark to Julie in the telephone call later that evening.
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