The beauty of THREE marks for supporters

[Adam]

Yes,of course Vanezis was right about them being burns HB,but like everyone else involved,including JB,he just couldn't work out what made them.

Bamber made the burns.

[Hardy Boy]

Yes,of course Vanezis was right about them being burns HB,but like everyone else involved,including JB,he just couldn't work out what made them.

Well done you, you’ve solved it for him.  You must write and tell him your findings.

[snow66!]

So your more experienced than Knight and Rivlin then, they seen quite a few photo's of the marks, more than the one your looking at and he thinks they are Bruises.  The defence argued that they was bruises at trial. 

I would say, Vanezis was right all all along wouldn't you agree, in his opinion they were burns, Vanezis  was spot on, because this guy Boyce and Bamber now wants the CCRC to look into the marks as Burns.

And again that takes us back to why JB wasted many years arguing that they were either bruises or were made by the rifle if he knew the Aga made them HB? As you say he even paid experts in America hoping for some sort of breakthrough.

In my eyes it can only mean one thing HB,Bamber simply did not know what made the marks to Nevills back because he simply wasn't in the WHF on the night of the murders to witness Nevill lying against the Aga.Therefore it follows that he is innocent.

[Hardy Boy]

And again that takes us back to why JB wasted many years arguing that they were either bruises or were made by the rifle if he knew the Aga made them HB? As you say he even paid experts in America hoping for some sort of breakthrough.

In my eyes it can only mean one thing HB,Bamber simply did not know what made the marks to Nevills back because he simply wasn't in the WHF on the night of the murders to witness Nevill lying against the Aga.Therefore it follows that he is innocent.

Yes, like I say write to him and tell him how you’ve solved it for him.

[Hardy Boy]

And again that takes us back to why JB wasted many years arguing that they were either bruises or were made by the rifle if he knew the Aga made them HB? As you say he even paid experts in America hoping for some sort of breakthrough.

In my eyes it can only mean one thing HB,Bamber simply did not know what made the marks to Nevills back because he simply wasn't in the WHF on the night of the murders to witness Nevill lying against the Aga.Therefore it follows that he is innocent.

Can we have your Sheila Scenario in full Snow?

[snow66!]

Well done you, you’ve solved it for him.  You must write and tell him your findings.

Nothing to do with me HB.
I believe Bamber himself suggested the Aga as a possible source of the burns and that is when the CT and Boyce investigated.I am not sure who exactly worked out that the handles were responsible for the burns,but I.am sure that all will be revieled in due course HB.
As for Vanezis,I would imagine that he has already heard about the Aga evidence.

[snow66!]

Can we have your Sheila Scenario in full Snow?

Yes,of course HB,maybe tomorrow,time allowing.

[Hardy Boy]

Yes,of course HB,maybe tomorrow,time allowing.

Doesn't matter if you haven’t got time Snow, I’m away for a while anyway.

[snow66!]

Doesn't matter if you haven’t got time Snow, I’m away for a while anyway.

No problem HB.

[Bubo bubo]

I'm not suggesting anything of the sort, your suggesting that he was up against the AGA.  Yes i know there was a tear in the PJ's about 2 inch from the marks.

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Thanks for that. PV thought they were burns because he knew they were burns. From what I have seen and found together with the wounds issue raised by Roch and BR it is clear he was part of the cover-up but not part of the framing

[Roch]

Thanks for that. PV thought they were burns because he knew they were burns. From what I have seen and found together with the wounds issue raised by Roch and BR it is clear he was part of the cover-up but not part of the framing

He must have been part of the framing Bubo.

[Bubo bubo]

He must have been part of the framing Bubo.

He knew JB was being framed but if you study his writings and court evidence he did not say or write anything which was untrue and he even tried to show he was sympathetic towards JB by his comments about the scene staging and how SC would have to have been drugged to let JB kill her. His wording and phraseology was always very carefully constructed.

He did not act in anyway in constructing evidence physical or written which was used to convict JB. He played no part in the silencer ruse. He did not forge witness statements or 'turn' JM and get her freedom from prosecution for her misdeeds. He played no part in the Aga surround scratches or the window position ruse. He is culpable for concealing a crime and allowing a miscarriage of justice.

[snow66!]

Thanks for that. PV thought they were burns because he knew they were burns. From what I have seen and found together with the wounds issue raised by Roch and BR it is clear he was part of the cover-up but not part of the framing

If the police moved Nevill after entry,would they have known all along that the Aga made the burns Bubo? And possibly Vanezis too?

[Bubo bubo]

If the police moved Nevill after entry,would they have known all along that the Aga made the burns Bubo? And possibly Vanezis too?

Of course. I would like to think that my suggestion made in 2015 to the journalist and my efforts on this forum played some part in the decision to examine the burns issue scientifically.

[Roch]

He knew JB was being framed but if you study his writings and court evidence he did not say or write anything which was untrue and he even tried to show he was sympathetic towards JB by his comments about the scene staging and how SC would have to have been drugged to let JB kill her. His wording and phraseology was always very carefully constructed.

He did not act in anyway in constructing evidence physical or written which was used to convict JB. He played no part in the silencer ruse. He did not forge witness statements or 'turn' JM and get her freedom from prosecution for her misdeeds. He played no part in the Aga surround scratches or the window position ruse. He is culpable for concealing a crime and allowing a miscarriage of justice.

He lied about Sheila's wounds. He omitted mention of June's wounds.  His testimony about Sheila's wrist and hand is disgraceful. He was answering questions from a judge who had already been involved in two MOJ's. Vanezis' career took off after the Bamber trial.