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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #60 on: September 22, 2023, 08:16:PM »
The only way Jeremy Bamber is leaving the COA a free man if there is significant evidence that comes to light that renders the original verdict unsafe. If it's rendered unsafe, they will be quashed. If not. The convictions will stand. It's the same for Jeremy Bamber or anybody else who is challenging their conviction in the COA
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #61 on: September 22, 2023, 08:20:PM »
It's needs to be something compelling and substantial.

The biggest slam dunk to Bambers benefit is Julie saying " I lied" but we all know that will never happen.
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2023, 08:29:PM »
It's needs to be something compelling and substantial.

The biggest slam dunk to Bambers benefit is Julie saying " I lied" but we all know that will never happen.
No, because it's not true. You might have more luck with Ann Eaton and David Boutflour saying their late father cut his finger and dripped his blood into a silencer, but I have a feeling that's a non-starter too.

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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2023, 09:07:PM »
No, because it's not true. You might have more luck with Ann Eaton and David Boutflour saying their late father cut his finger and dripped his blood into a silencer, but I have a feeling that's a non-starter too.

Julie is the most compelling piece of evidence, evidence of a confession.

The late Anthony Arlidge said  this himself

Forget silencers, access entry, Shelias could have Shelia couldn't do this.
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2023, 09:24:PM »
Julie is the most compelling piece of evidence, evidence of a confession.

The late Anthony Arlidge said  this himself

Forget silencers, access entry, Shelias could have Shelia couldn't do this.
A Julie pushing sixty with a stable marriage and two grown-up children is hardly likely to recant, even if she does feel a tinge of remorse for her passive role in the tragedy.

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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2023, 09:28:PM »
A Julie pushing sixty with a stable marriage and two grown-up children is hardly likely to recant, even if she does feel a tinge of remorse for her passive role in the tragedy.

Julie would never recant even if Jeremy Bamber is innocent.

She would be going to prison for a long time
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2023, 09:33:PM »
All of his submissions are based on specific issues. Looking for a discrepancy in one of them - a technicality.

Claiming innocence is not feasible as Sheila could not function.

He has claimed innocence from the outset.
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #67 on: September 22, 2023, 09:41:PM »
Barry parker a clothing store owner who saw Shelia on August 6th said he found " Shelia to be a very strange woman " but added " she didn't say anything at all hardly "

( when Shelia along with the boys and June made the purchase of the jeans )

How can he ascertain Shelia was " strange "

That particular recollection I guarantee is tainted by wisdom of the event.

How can you guage some ones personality if 1, they are monotone and simply a customer in your shop?
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2023, 09:58:PM »
Barry parker a clothing store owner who saw Shelia on August 6th said he found " Shelia to be a very strange woman " but added " she didn't say anything at all hardly "

( when Shelia along with the boys and June made the purchase of the jeans )

How can he ascertain Shelia was " strange "

That particular recollection I guarantee is talented by wisdom of the event.

How can you guage some ones personality if 1, they are monotone and simply a customer in your shop?

Probably the way Sheila looked and moved. And the few words she did say.

I guessed June would have been with Sheila when the jeans were bought.
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #69 on: September 22, 2023, 10:07:PM »
Barry parker a clothing store owner who saw Shelia on August 6th said he found " Shelia to be a very strange woman " but added " she didn't say anything at all hardly "

( when Shelia along with the boys and June made the purchase of the jeans )

How can he ascertain Shelia was " strange "

That particular recollection I guarantee is talented by wisdom of the event.

How can you guage some ones personality if 1, they are monotone and simply a customer in your shop?
One can often tell if someone is under the influence of drugs, prescription or not. He noticed lipstick smudged on her teeth and she was distant, speaking rarely, which as we have learned is a symptom of Haloperidol.

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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #70 on: September 22, 2023, 10:18:PM »
Probably the way Sheila looked and moved. And the few words she did say.

I guessed June would have been with Sheila when the jeans were bought.

So were Daniel and Nicholas

She had visited the farm to see her parents

Nevill would be working.

My sister meets with my mum all the time and they go of shopping or for coffee. It's normal family stuff.
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #71 on: September 22, 2023, 10:25:PM »
So were Daniel and Nicholas

She had visited the farm to see her parents

Nevill would be working.

My sister meets with my mum all the time and they go of shopping or for coffee. It's normal family stuff.

Sheila could not have bought the jeans on her own.

The twins lived with CC & June bought Sheila's food.
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #72 on: September 22, 2023, 10:35:PM »
Sheila could not have bought the jeans on her own.

The twins lived with CC & June bought Sheila's food.

Shelia had money problems

June was wealthy

Point is?
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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2023, 10:35:PM »
Shelia had money problems

June was wealthy

Point is?
Sheila couldn't drive. She was dependent on June whilst at the farm, possibly why she disliked the environment so much.

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Re: Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?
« Reply #74 on: September 22, 2023, 10:36:PM »
Sheila couldn't drive. She was dependent on June whilst at the farm, possibly why she disliked the environment so much.

Couldn't drive? Or had no interest.

I know plenty of people who don't drive. With the amount my vans cost me I sometimes wished I didn't
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