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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2023, 02:57:PM »
Wonder what well norished refers to. The last 24 hours of eating?

No surprise, June was cooking. Even Jeremy popped over for a bite.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2023, 03:05:PM »
ILB does not have an answer.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2023, 04:47:PM »
It's obvious that there is a strong possibility that  Shelias mental health problems formulated in her relationship with her mother.  Due to Ostensibly the latters near obsession with religion

CAL states the " devils child " remark to Shelia by June was the catalyst.

Me personally I am undecided as I believe it could have manifested in other areas in Shelias life as well.
It's possible, though I doubt Sheila's ideation of herself as Joan of Arc or the Virgin Mary could have stemmed from June, however forceful the castigation of her became. I'm sure there's a genetic component to the illness, which brings me to her father. In one of the books he was supposed to be a low-ranking churchman, in another an industrial cleaner from Surrey.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2023, 04:51:PM »
Like alcoholics, anorexics are only ever in recovery and just one tiny step away from danger. There is on picture -I imagine it's on here- in which Sheila looks particularly ill and frail.
There's a chapter in Claire Powell's book about the insecurity of the girls in the modelling world. I wonder if Sheila ever aspired to be in that cut-throat world of ever-increasing insecurities, or recognized how false it really was, or maybe she was just dippy and forgot to eat meals at regular times.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2023, 04:57:PM »
Can only think 'well norished' means she had eaten well that day.  Fed by June.

All of her organs would be working. She was 27, alive and not a heavy drinker or smoker.

She was very thin and small going by the crime scene photos. But a recovering rather than an actual anorexic.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2023, 05:00:PM »
Being 'well norished' has no impact on her balance, body and eye co ordination, lack of energy & alertness, strength, involuntary movement, reliant on strong medical drugs issues.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2023, 05:09:PM »
Being 'well norished' has no impact on her balance, body and eye co ordination, lack of energy & alertness, strength, involuntary movement, reliant on strong medical drugs issues.
Many drugs do have side-effects, such as weight gain. You only have to look at a pack of Nurofen to read a list of disclaimers as long as your arm.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2023, 05:36:PM »
Can only think 'well norished' means she had eaten well that day.  Fed by June.

All of her organs would be working. She was 27, alive and not a heavy drinker or smoker.

She was very thin and small going by the crime scene photos. But a recovering rather than an actual anorexic.

Well nourished means she was of the correct weight and build for a woman her age
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2023, 05:39:PM »
Well nourished means she was of the correct weight and build for a woman her age

Can all interpret it how we want.

But will have no impact on her balance, body and eye co ordination, lack of energy & alertness, strength, involuntary movement & reliant on strong sedative medical drugs.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2023, 05:42:PM »
Can all interpret it how we want.

But will have no impact on her balance, body and eye co ordination, lack of energy & alertness, strength, involuntary movement & reliant on strong sedative medical drugs.

What you have described would have rendered her bed bound or at a push certainly housebound.

Not fit or healthy enough to embark on a trip to Essex.

She would have stayed at the flat you know this
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2023, 05:43:PM »
Shelia was skipping down pages lane the day of the killings seen by Len Fowkes.

Shelia also was shopping for jeans
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2023, 05:44:PM »
Can all interpret it how we want.


Interpretation or reality?
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2023, 05:45:PM »
What you have described would have rendered her bed bound or at a push certainly housebound.

Not fit or healthy enough to embark on a trip to Essex.

She would have stayed at the flat you know this

All facts.

CC drove them there. June & Nevill would look after her.

Gives June a break from travelling to London to do Sheila's food shopping.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2023, 05:46:PM »
Shelia was skipping down pages lane the day of the killings seen by Len Fowkes.

Shelia also was shopping for jeans

Apparently skipping a few feet does not negate her poor balance, body and eye co ordination, lack of energy & alertness, strength, involuntary movement, reliant on strong medical drugs issues.

Unless she was skipping like Iron Mike.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2023, 05:51:PM »
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/lack-of-appeal&ved=2ahUKEwjijOndyLGBAxUiWUEAHay6DQQQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw37Kc9EYk8b81Ik2gJCJSbZ

She was a recovering anorexic.

Appreciate supporters have to refute facts regarding Sheila's condition.
Is there any other documentation of anorexia Adam,I mean is it a recognised FACT by both guilt and innocence supporters that Sheila had the condition?