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Offline Bubo bubo

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2023, 11:54:AM »
Yes I have read several reports the route was pretty rough back then Bubo, poor old Adam is so bitter and twisted he thinks it was like the M1 complete with lights.
This is a bit more representative. I cannot understand his obsession with the sea wall and bike ride. He keeps creating threads despite all the posting to date.

One mistake and your in the drink.

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2023, 11:54:AM »
Flashmode?

You know this

Don't know what that is. I don't take pictures in outside darkness.
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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2023, 12:01:PM »
Yes I have read several reports the route was pretty rough back then Bubo, poor old Adam is so bitter and twisted he thinks it was like the M1 complete with lights.

No, but it WAS a familiar route for him, given he had lived his whole life there!

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2023, 12:04:PM »
No, but it WAS a familiar route for him, given he had lived his whole life there!

Lived there, farmed there & had the option of a trial run on the 6th August.

A dream route for him.
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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2023, 12:08:PM »
My partner frequently cycled the sea wall from D'Arcy  to swim in Goldhanger Creek. I guess the terrain would have been much more 'rustic' back then.

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2023, 12:10:PM »
My partner frequently cycled the sea wall from D'Arcy  to swim in Goldhanger Creek. I guess the terrain would have been much more 'rustic' back then.
Yes it was but did he engage in night swimming?

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2023, 12:12:PM »
My partner frequently cycled the sea wall from D'Arcy  to swim in Goldhanger Creek. I guess the terrain would have been much more 'rustic' back then.

The terrain in 1985 was very good. Wilkinson cycled it.

Supporters claim Bamber could not cycle it at night. Although GG said it was 'so easy to see using the ambient light'.
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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2023, 12:15:PM »
No, but it WAS a familiar route for him, given he had lived his whole life there!
How do you know? More mind reading. He seemed more interested in pubs and women The high life according to the guilt brigade who call him a playboy. Does not fit with the outdoor rambler image one might expect for walking sea walls on a regular basis.

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« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2023, 12:18:PM »
How do you know? More mind reading. He seemed more interested in pubs and women The high life according to the guilt brigade who call him a playboy. Does not fit with the outdoor rambler image one might expect for walking sea walls on a regular basis.

Are you serious? HE LIVED THERE!!!!!

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2023, 12:18:PM »
Yes it was but did he engage in night swimming?


Not deliberately, no, but as with many young men of that era, time meant little when the long summer holidays stretched out before them. As he only lived at the bottom of the hill going out of D'arcy to Tiptree, traffic, according to him, was non existent.

He has just confirmed that it was often dark when he got home, but more late evening, as opposed to night.

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2023, 12:22:PM »
How do you know? More mind reading. He seemed more interested in pubs and women The high life according to the guilt brigade who call him a playboy. Does not fit with the outdoor rambler image one might expect for walking sea walls on a regular basis.


Such may have been what he grew into, but there would have been a time cycling along the sea wall, perhaps armed with a catapult? might have proved more exciting.

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« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2023, 12:22:PM »
Are you serious? HE LIVED THERE!!!!!
Last I heard he did not live on the sea wall. He knew it was there it does not prove he frequented it on a regular basis.

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2023, 12:27:PM »
Would be hard to navigate that path in pitch black on a ladies bike.

Not one iota of lighting

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2023, 12:27:PM »
The terrain in 1985 was very good. Wilkinson cycled it.

Supporters claim Bamber could not cycle it at night. Although GG said it was 'so easy to see using the ambient light'.

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Re: The 4.2 miles between WHF and Goldhanger. The perfect distance?
« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2023, 12:28:PM »

Such may have been what he grew into, but there would have been a time cycling along the sea wall, perhaps armed with a catapult? might have proved more exciting.
In his early years I would agree but then knowing it as it was when a child does not  mean he thought it would be in the same condition when in his early twenties or that he saw it as a route to cycle to commit murder. Do not forget a lot of his younger years he was away at boarding school and by the time he was a teenager studyingA levels in Colchester I do not think he would be playing with a catapult on the sea wall. More likely showing off to his college mates, chatting up girls and driving around the countryside.