Flaws in BuboBubo's Sheila Scenario.

[Adam]

The lamp shade was smashed and the Aga surround was chipped.

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Agree that happened.

[Adam]

She had to lay her hands on a weapon and so went to get AP’s rifle from the scullery.

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Getting confusing now. Even by BuboBubo standards.

June hasn't even got her shot gun yet.

[Adam]

June by this time had retrieved a shotgun from the den and threatened to shoot SC.

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I thought the American female wrestlers were bad.

[Adam]

SC retreated again but had started menstruating.

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Never a good time.

[Adam]

SC disappeared and may have taken a shower.

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Radox?

Why didn't June go outside to the police?

[Bubo bubo]

I agree Nevill did not speak to the police. Disagee he would ring them.

Your choice. Will not debate two phone calls already argued see my posts

[Roch]

attacked him with the rifle beating him with both ends of the rifle.

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I agree that happened as well. Nevill still hasn't laid a glove on her.

She only attacked him with one end the rifle. You can't attack somebody's forearm with a rifle muzzle. Not repeatedly. You might get one or two lucky hits but that's it. The only way it can be done is if Nevill is prone, with the underside of his arm flat against the floor. Sheila would have to stand over him and press the rifle muzzle downwards on the top of his forearm, as if applying pressure.

Somebody clearly laid a glove on Sheila, as her chain / pendant / clasp was yanked against her throat from behind. She has a swollen earlobe and an earring snagged on her nightdress. The two may not be connected because I believe she wore stud earrings as well.

[Bubo bubo]

The lamp shade was smashed and the Aga surround was chipped.

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Agree that happened.

Thanks

[Adam]

With NB now dead June remained by his side distraught.

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Was Sheila still having a shower?

Women eh.

[Bubo bubo]

She had to lay her hands on a weapon and so went to get AP’s rifle from the scullery.

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Getting confusing now. Even by BuboBubo standards.

June hasn't even got her shot gun yet.

She got it while SC was getting the other rifle which had available bullets

[Adam]

She was trying to get to June to finish her.

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If a jobs worth doing......

[Bubo bubo]

NB and June went to bed.

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I actually agree that happened!

Thanks again

[Bubo bubo]

Lets not forget the one thing that did happen - Nevill and June went to bed.

Will continue later today.

Thank goodness for that. Please remember that I do not claim my post as the gospel truth.

As I have consistently maintained nobody knows all that happened after JB left and the time the TFG entered. It is foolish to pretend otherwise. It must be remembered that at the heart of this tragedy was a lost young woman with huge mental health issues. Supposedly schizophrenic and liable to psychotic episodes involving self- harm and possibly presenting a danger to others. It is not possible to predict behaviour or to understand the thought processes of a person so inflicted. Rational explanations based on normal behaviour are pointless and what they choose to do at any particular moment is hugely unpredictable. They can act in ways that appear to be a totally illogical to others.

I have made as have others an effort to understand what the real truth is behind this tragedy. I have studied the case for 14 years on and off. The conclusion I have come to is that JB is innocent but because of other surrounding issues he found himself framed for the killing of his family.

Having said all that I have produced the following which attempts to suggest a range of possibilities of what might have happened in those early hours of 07/08/85.

I do not consider it totally correct it never can be for the reasons outlined. What I have attempted is to outline a range of possibilities. The true sequence of events will never be known. For example, I have suggested that SC shot NB 3 times with the Brno before shooting the twins a second time but it could just as easily have been the other way round.

So for better or worse I set this out for consideration and discussion. For some it might be a load of old bollocks and others particularly those that cannot or prefer not to read lengthy posts it may be an anathema. It may well contain some inaccuracies brought about trying to outline a complex set of events and if so I apologise and will happily seek to correct such and to offer further clarification.

[Adam]

She only attacked him with one end the rifle. You can't attack somebody's forearm with a rifle muzzle. Not repeatedly. You might get one or two lucky hits but that's it. The only way it can be done is if Nevill is prone, with the underside of his arm flat against the floor. Sheila would have to stand over him and press the rifle muzzle downwards on the top of his forearm, as if applying pressure.

Somebody clearly laid a glove on Sheila, as her chain / pendant / clasp was yanked against her throat from behind. She has a swollen earlobe and an earring snagged on her nightdress. The two may not be connected because I believe she wore stud earrings as well.

I agree the attack was with the butt of the rifle. A piece of it fell off.

[Bubo bubo]

She only attacked him with one end the rifle. You can't attack somebody's forearm with a rifle muzzle. Not repeatedly. You might get one or two lucky hits but that's it. The only way it can be done is if Nevill is prone, with the underside of his arm flat against the floor. Sheila would have to stand over him and press the rifle muzzle downwards on the top of his forearm, as if applying pressure.

Somebody clearly laid a glove on Sheila, as her chain / pendant / clasp was yanked against her throat from behind. She has a swollen earlobe and an earring snagged on her nightdress. The two may not be connected because I believe she wore stud earrings as well.

Think the first few blows may have been while holding the rifle conventionally. But switched as he still was showing signs of life.