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Offline Bubo bubo

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2023, 09:44:PM »
It detects brain abnormalities in the amygdala. I've read various internet stories over the years: June dropped Jeremy on the head as a baby, Jeremy sustained a head injury riding down a bannister on a tin tray at White House Farm, Jeremy failed a scuba diving medical in New Zealand, to name but three.
More gross speculation. I am a qualified open water diver. Was trained by an ex navy seal from the australian navy there are many reasons for failing the criteria.
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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2023, 09:48:PM »
Mind reading again
Sheila was afraid of Jeremy. She passed the telephone to Colin at the party the previous Saturday after dialling his number. Jeremy himself confirmed post-murders standing outside the Farm that they didn't get on. Nevill suspected his son was out to kill him; June moped around the house writing phylacteries as solace for her desolate predicament. They both suspected their son's involvement in the Osea Road break in.

I find it very difficult to imagine any domestic situation where Jeremy Bamber could have been of the slightest assistance.

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2023, 09:51:PM »
More gross speculation. I am a qualified open water diver. Was trained by an ex navy seal from the australian navy there are many reasons for failing the criteria.
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I'm quite prepared to admit the three scenarios are anecdotal. However I have read that Jeremy has refused a brain scan, which could indicate whether there is some abnormality which presaged the tragedy.

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2023, 09:52:PM »
Sheila was afraid of Jeremy. She passed the telephone to Colin at the party the previous Saturday after dialling his number. Jeremy himself confirmed post-murders standing outside the Farm that they didn't get on. Nevill suspected his son was out to kill him; June moped around the house writing phylacteries as solace for her desolate predicament. They both suspected their son's involvement in the Osea Road break in.

I find it very difficult to imagine any domestic situation where Jeremy Bamber could have been of the slightest assistance.

I don't think she was overly afraid of him. He probably wound her up. I both think they had separate life's and mixed in different circles . Not uncommon

In all aspects of the case it's a general fact that Shelia and Jeremy were not close.

Barbara Wilson herself says it was a rarity when she saw both brother and sister together
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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2023, 01:26:AM »
More gross speculation. I am a qualified open water diver. Was trained by an ex navy seal from the australian navy there are many reasons for failing the criteria.
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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2023, 07:39:AM »
I'm quite prepared to admit the three scenarios are anecdotal. However I have read that Jeremy has refused a brain scan, which could indicate whether there is some abnormality which presaged the tragedy.
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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2023, 08:03:AM »
I don't think she was overly afraid of him. He probably wound her up. I both think they had separate life's and mixed in different circles . Not uncommon

In all aspects of the case it's a general fact that Shelia and Jeremy were not close.

Barbara Wilson herself says it was a rarity when she saw both brother and sister together
They both went to boarding schools as children and SC lived in London JB would visit her there. I do not know if BW went with him. He went abroad and she rarely visited once she was married because Colin did not want the twins to be caught up in June's religious mania.
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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2023, 09:51:AM »
Of course you are correct but the point I am making, which you have yet again side stepped, is that is possible that June was alive when the TFG entered.

There is a window in the box room, she had to know the raid team were outside, why didn't make herself known to initiate some help?

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2023, 10:02:AM »
There is a window in the box room, she had to know the raid team were outside, why didn't make herself known to initiate some help?
Why? she was tired injured and in a state of complete shock and distress. It is possible she showed herself at the window but was afraid to go to the phone as requested because she did not know if SC was still alive and waiting to attack her if she left.

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2023, 10:13:AM »
Why? she was tired injured and in a state of complete shock and distress. It is possible she showed herself at the window but was afraid to go to the phone as requested because she did not know if SC was still alive and waiting to attack her if she left.

I just said 'why' - to initiate some help. If she was locked in the box room, Sheila wouldn't have been able to see her. I have no idea where your basis for this theory comes from.

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2023, 10:22:AM »
I just said 'why' - to initiate some help. If she was locked in the box room, Sheila wouldn't have been able to see her. I have no idea where your basis for this theory comes from.
She did not need to lock herself in she had a weapon and would have been able to shoot SC if she entered. She would not leave her sanctuary. (see box room characteristics). SC could have tracked her down and knew she would be a sitting duck if she entered. They may have exchanged words. SC could have challenged her to come out at that stage using cruel venomous language.
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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2023, 01:02:PM »
She did not need to lock herself in she had a weapon and would have been able to shoot SC if she entered. She would not leave her sanctuary. (see box room characteristics). SC could have tracked her down and knew she would be a sitting duck if she entered. They may have exchanged words. SC could have challenged her to come out at that stage using cruel venomous language.

A weapon? Right of course ....... should have known.

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2023, 01:37:PM »
She did not need to lock herself in she had a weapon and would have been able to shoot SC if she entered. She would not leave her sanctuary. (see box room characteristics). SC could have tracked her down and knew she would be a sitting duck if she entered. They may have exchanged words. SC could have challenged her to come out at that stage using cruel venomous language.


You've done a fine job of turning Sheila from someone who'd previously only ever done some minor self harming -and then only because she either wasn't medicated or wasn't taking her medication- into a murderous monster.

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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2023, 01:42:PM »

You've done a fine job of turning Sheila from someone who'd previously only ever done some minor self harming -and then only because she either wasn't medicated or wasn't taking her medication- into a murderous monster.

BuboBubo has no evidence to support the crime scene he invents.

He also has no evidence the crime scene was staged.
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Re: How June could have remained alive
« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2023, 01:46:PM »
BuboBubo has no evidence to support the crime scene he invents.

He also has no evidence the crime scene was staged.
Yes he has once the Aga burns are proven Adam.No invention.