How June could have remained alive

[Adam]

Of course you are correct but the point I am making, which you have yet again side stepped, is that is possible that June was alive when the TFG entered.

There is no evidence June was alive when the TFG entered.

[Bubo bubo]

Think there's something about the social worker statements on the Ainsley thread. Not Zoso's but my much earlier posting up of Bill's work. I think Bubo posted up a link to it a few weeks back. I'm not saying this is proof. Merely that it may be relevant.

Do not remember could you be a little more specific. Thanks.
Aha I think you may mean this.

One of the most serious acts of deception by Ainsley was over the issue of foster-care for the twins.  The fact was that Sheila had used foster care previously and it was being considered again.  Ainsley had statements made by foster carers but these were only in a hand written form and were not typed up and not produced as evidence.  None of the foster carers were called to give evidence at Trial in an attempt to undermine Jeremy and depict him as lying about the issue.

[Jane]

Of course you are correct but the point I am making, which you have yet again side stepped, is that is possible that June was alive when the TFG entered.

I'm just wondering if you'd get responses more  acceptable to you if you asked a question as opposed to stating a fact/making a claim?

[Bubo bubo]

There is no evidence June was alive when the TFG entered.

And no evidence she was dead but we only have pictures and no TOD from the pathologist.

[Bubo bubo]

I'm just wondering if you'd get responses more  acceptable to you if you asked a question as opposed to stating a fact/making a claim?

I am not making a claim only stating a genuine possibility.

[Adam]

And no evidence she was dead but we only have pictures and no TOD from the pathologist.

We have photos and the TFG who said she was dead upon entrance.

There was no contact from inside WHF and the evidence is the bullets in June were from the murder weapon.

[Jane]

Do not remember could you be a little more specific. Thanks.
Aha I think you may mean this.

One of the most serious acts of deception by Ainsley was over the issue of foster-care for the twins.  The fact was that Sheila had used foster care previously and it was being considered again.  Ainsley had statements made by foster carers but these were only in a hand written form and were not typed up and not produced as evidence.  None of the foster carers were called to give evidence at Trial in an attempt to undermine Jeremy and depict him as lying about the issue.

 Ainsley? Deception? Is this fact or something conjured up by the CT? You must be aware that Colin had joint custody of the twins. Is the term "foster care", which is more likely to be long term and overnight care, being used instead of child minding/day care? If this is the case, they'd be unlikely to be called. Again, is it not strange that not one of these alleged 'foster carers' has ever come forward?

[Bubo bubo]

We have photos and the TFG who said she was dead upon entrance.

There was no contact from inside WHF and the evidence is the bullets in June were from the murder weapon.

They would say that wouldn't they. Yes the bullets were from the Anschutz except the one that killed her which was disguised as previously explained. It is possible that she had been shot up to five times by SC. If they shot her that makes six and adding a seventh to distract from the kill shot would not be beyond the realms of possibility. Adding shots to someone you have just killed to cover your tracks is indeed possible if you are in the proverbial 'shit'.

[Bubo bubo]

 Ainsley? Deception? Is this fact or something conjured up by the CT? You must be aware that Colin had joint custody of the twins. Is the term "foster care", which is more likely to be long term and overnight care, being used instead of child minding/day care? If this is the case, they'd be unlikely to be called. Again, is it not strange that not one of these alleged 'foster carers' has ever come forward?

Over to you Bill and Roch

[Adam]

They would say that wouldn't they. Yes the bullets were from the Anschutz except the one that killed her which was disguised as previously explained. It is possible that she had been shot up to five times by SC. If they shot her that makes six and adding a seventh to distract from the kill shot would not be beyond the realms of possibility. Adding shots to someone you have just killed to cover your tracks is indeed possible if you are in the proverbial 'shit'.

Yes they would say that. Because it was the case.

Bamber shot June 5 times in bed. Then twice more after returning upstairs as June had moved.

As the crime scene evidence shows.

[Bubo bubo]

Yes they would say that. Because it was the case.

Bamber shot June 5 times in bed. Then twice more after returning upstairs as June had moved.

As the crime scene evidence shows.

If your happy to believe that then more fool you. I think it was a cover-up

[Adam]

If your happy to believe that then more fool you. I think it was a cover-up

There is no evidence of a cover up. Espescially no evidence of a total re staging of the crime scene.

[Bubo bubo]

There is no evidence of a cover up. Espescially no evidence of a total re staging of the crime scene.

That is because they did a pretty good but not perfect job. When you dig deep you can see problems and inconsistencies in the story and the physical evidence. Even PV said JB would have to have been a nutter to stage it that way. For someone who had been planning this for months the execution of the plan was piss poor. As a cover up it is near but not quite perfect.

[Roch]

There is no evidence of a total re staging of the crime scene.

One thing's for sure. If Jeremy Bamber restaged Sheila, her blood must have already been dry. 

[Adam]

That is because they did a pretty good but not perfect job. When you dig deep you can see problems and inconsistencies in the story and the physical evidence. Even PV said JB would have to have been a nutter to stage it that way. For someone who had been planning this for months the execution of the plan was piss poor. As a cover up it is near but not quite perfect.

Digging deep you may find a spelling mistake on a WS.

How did PV say Bamber should have staged it?

Who was the leader of the crime scene re stage? He would have needed a lot of instant co operation.