Prospective retirement

[Hardy Boy]

She has excellent taste in retirement destination, but I don't think vaping will do her health any good. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/08/24/angela-rayner-defends-800000-seafront-hove-home/

Her holiday home: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15028265/Angela-Rayner-home-Labour-seaside-pad.html

Shes a woman with little between the ears, the woman hasn’t got a brain, she got caught out and thought she could get away with it like she did before.

Angela Rayner bought her council house in 2007 and sold it in 2015. She didn’t take tax advice at the time, and may or may not have incurred capital gains tax she didn’t pay. Her initial explanation in February was based on a misunderstanding of the rules. She is now insisting she owed no capital gains tax, but not explaining why that was.

Fast forward, again she didn’t take the proper tax advice, yet tried to blame the advice she was given by the Solicitors, she thought she could get away with it,   she’s a fake through and through.  I think Starmer wanted rid of her anyway, she was seen as a threat to him because of her left wing support in the Party, it will be interesting to see what happens next, Reeves has been a shambles of a chancellor and Jess Phillips is the same, the only bright spark I see within the party seems to be Streeting,  this has to be the worst Labour government and the worst Conservative Party in opposition,  Farage must be Laughing his head off at the downfall of the two mainstream parties?

[Steve_uk]

Shes a woman with little between the ears, the woman hasn’t got a brain, she got caught out and thought she could get away with it like she did before.

Angela Rayner bought her council house in 2007 and sold it in 2015. She didn’t take tax advice at the time, and may or may not have incurred capital gains tax she didn’t pay. Her initial explanation in February was based on a misunderstanding of the rules. She is now insisting she owed no capital gains tax, but not explaining why that was.

Fast forward, again she didn’t take the proper tax advice, yet tried to blame the advice she was given by the Solicitors, she thought she could get away with it,   she’s a fake through and through.  I think Starmer wanted rid of her anyway, she was seen as a threat to him because of her left wing support in the Party, it will be interesting to see what happens next, Reeves has been a shambles of a chancellor and Jess Phillips is the same, the only bright spark I see within the party seems to be Streeting,  this has to be the worst Labour government and the worst Conservative Party in opposition,  Farage must be Laughing his head off at the downfall of the two mainstream parties?

I can't understand her Hardy Boy. I want to be charitable and say she made a mistake in good faith, but as you point out there was controversy over her housing arrangements in 2015. There's so much going on here it's hard to discern: hatred of working class people made good, a disabled son and compensation she received from the NHS following his birth, her trust fund established for him based on an overvaluation of the house in Ashton-under-Lyne, then the Hove apartment purchase.

Voters have become disillusioned with politics in general and the two main parties in particular. The problem is that Western societies have been living beyond their means for decades, but no politician has the honesty to say so and gently turn off the tap. Until we end the something-for-nothing culture prevalent among many people will turn to Farage more out of desperation than any of his policies, though his stance on immigration does seem superficially attractive.  https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsmanchester/angela-rayner-s-real-offence-was-being-a-working-class-woman-in-power/ar-AA1LXNlE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68bb62ceffde43f2a72ed253261d9163&ei=9

[handymanz]

Shes a woman with little between the ears, the woman hasn’t got a brain, she got caught out and thought she could get away with it like she did before.

Angela Rayner bought her council house in 2007 and sold it in 2015. She didn’t take tax advice at the time, and may or may not have incurred capital gains tax she didn’t pay. Her initial explanation in February was based on a misunderstanding of the rules. She is now insisting she owed no capital gains tax, but not explaining why that was.

Fast forward, again she didn’t take the proper tax advice, yet tried to blame the advice she was given by the Solicitors, she thought she could get away with it,   she’s a fake through and through.  I think Starmer wanted rid of her anyway, she was seen as a threat to him because of her left wing support in the Party, it will be interesting to see what happens next, Reeves has been a shambles of a chancellor and Jess Phillips is the same, the only bright spark I see within the party seems to be Streeting,  this has to be the worst Labour government and the worst Conservative Party in opposition,  Farage must be Laughing his head off at the downfall of the two mainstream parties?

So, she buys her Council House on favorable terms, which enables her to become a property investor at the expense of the taxpayer, who'd funded building the council house to assist those who couldn't get onto the property ladder. And she has the gall to refer to herself as being left wing.
The perfect microcosm of what is broken about the UK.

[Hardy Boy]

I can't understand her Hardy Boy. I want to be charitable and say she made a mistake in good faith, but as you point out there was controversy over her housing arrangements in 2015. There's so much going on here it's hard to discern: hatred of working class people made good, a disabled son and compensation she received from the NHS following his birth, her trust fund established for him based on an overvaluation of the house in Ashton-under-Lyne, then the Hove apartment purchase.

Voters have become disillusioned with politics in general and the two main parties in particular. The problem is that Western societies have been living beyond their means for decades, but no politician has the honesty to say so and gently turn off the tap. Until we end the something-for-nothing culture prevalent among many people will turn to Farage more out of desperation than any of his policies, though his stance on immigration does seem superficially attractive.  https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsmanchester/angela-rayner-s-real-offence-was-being-a-working-class-woman-in-power/ar-AA1LXNlE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68bb62ceffde43f2a72ed253261d9163&ei=9

The two main parties are a shambles Steve, gone are the true Politicians who had the Country and People at heart.  It’s me, me, me, society now Steve,  gone is the Community spirit that prevailed when we was younger.

Starmer has just reorganised the deck chairs on his sinking ship, all he’s done is moved Ministers not up to the job that they were doing in the first place,  sideways and into another ministerial job to Fk up.

You would honestly think, that anyone entering politics in Westminster would certainly not only cross their Ts and dot their Is when doing any transaction like tax affairs, and would give it the utter most scrutiny and attention to detail, especially being the Deputy Prime Minister and housing minister and being caught out once before over tax and Housing.

[Hardy Boy]

So, she buys her Council House on favorable terms, which enables her to become a property investor at the expense of the taxpayer, who'd funded building the council house to assist those who couldn't get onto the property ladder. And she has the gall to refer to herself as being left wing.
The perfect microcosm of what is broken about the UK.

I couldn’t agree more Handyman, and as Katie Hind put it, she has spent her Parliamentary career behaving like an uncouth, haughty, arrogant and deeply unserious hypocrite.

[Hardy Boy]

Was the house overvalued for a reason?  It seems the Trust house was overvalued at £650,000, putting it in trust didn’t need a surveyor’s Valuation,

 She and her ex-husband alternate living at the property and look after their two teenage sons under a ‘nesting arrangement’, she said.

Stephanie Churchill, founder of Churchill Taxation, said when a property is put partially or wholly into a trust, there is often no need for a formal surveyor’s valuation.

But if the share is sold, Ms Churchill said she would advise on a ‘robust’ surveyor valuation.

‘If she has taken more money out of the house than she should have done, that could have tax implications,’ Ms Churchill added.

[Steve_uk]

So, she buys her Council House on favorable terms, which enables her to become a property investor at the expense of the taxpayer, who'd funded building the council house to assist those who couldn't get onto the property ladder. And she has the gall to refer to herself as being left wing.
The perfect microcosm of what is broken about the UK.

I wouldn't like to hurt those at the very bottom, who have mental or physical problems of some description. But those who can work should work, instead of bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, many of whom find it difficult to integrate. My concern is the burgeoning debt. There should be an Income Tax rise until the £400 billion Covid spend is cleared, plus the State Pension should be means tested, and some of the gold plated public sector pensions should be reduced.

[handymanz]

For "those at the very bottom" the seed of their problem is generally from inadequate housing or is an exacerbation of their problem.
Those who can work should work providing the jobs exist.
Here in NZ we have a recently elected right wing Government with a history of targeting beneficiaries.

I always do a simple math equation, in that the number of beneficiaries outnumber the available jobs 7-fold.
So, if all the job vacancies are filled (an impossibility with structural unemployment) only 14% of the problem is solved. So the impossible end does not justify the means in trying to achieve it.

[Steve_uk]

For "those at the very bottom" the seed of their problem is generally from inadequate housing or is an exacerbation of their problem.
Those who can work should work providing the jobs exist.
Here in NZ we have a recently elected right wing Government with a history of targeting beneficiaries.

I always do a simple math equation, in that the number of beneficiaries outnumber the available jobs 7-fold.
So, if all the job vacancies are filled (an impossibility with structural unemployment) only 14% of the problem is solved. So the impossible end does not justify the means in trying to achieve it.

The figure I have is for the period April-June 2025, where there were 1.67 million unemployed and 718,000 job vacancies. Everyone knows including politicians that the way out of poverty is to get into work. Everyone also knows that there are people who are gaming the system. I wouldn't like to live on benefits and my sympathies are with those who genuinely need them. But to paraphrase Milton Friedman, when it's not your money you're handing out you're bound to be less careful than if it were your own.

[Steve_uk]

I had always thought of New Zealand as keeping its "clean and green" image. It seems the country has similar problems to other Western nations, and has put a huge financial obstacle in the way of prospective retirees. https://youtu.be/hGPyg2uMyM0

New Zealand incident today: https://youtu.be/doD-r2HYyK8

[handymanz]

I had always thought of New Zealand as keeping its "clean and green" image. It seems the country has similar problems to other Western nations, and has put a huge financial obstacle in the way of prospective retirees. https://youtu.be/hGPyg2uMyM0

New Zealand incident today: https://youtu.be/doD-r2HYyK8

Yes, it has similar problems to other western countries.
But NZers have always had the escape hatch called Australia if things aren't working out financially.
 I actually moved here after living for 7 years in Australia. As ex Prime Minister Robert Muldoon once famously said "when New Zealanders leave New Zealand to live in Australia it raises the average IQ of both countries".

This guy went bush with his 3 kids 4 years ago, to prevent his ex from getting them jabbed with the Covid vax. Hopefully they'll remain unjabbed so at least some good will come out of the whole tragedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doD-r2HYyK8

[Steve_uk]

All the golden oldies are dying. Maybe modern film makers should take a look back at how films should be made: https://youtu.be/IQheWL99XEE

[Steve_uk]

You couldn't make this up: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-15130473/Brits-Eurostar-questions-border.html

More red tape: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/ryanair-accused-of-disgraceful-attitude-to-older-passengers/ar-AA1Ne9Fz?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68d46f2145e841c8abecc1979aad6b02&ei=9

[Hardy Boy]

You couldn't make this up: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-15130473/Brits-Eurostar-questions-border.html

More red tape: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/ryanair-accused-of-disgraceful-attitude-to-older-passengers/ar-AA1Ne9Fz?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68d46f2145e841c8abecc1979aad6b02&ei=9

Wonder how I will get around the fact I might camp with my cycle and not know how far I’ll travel each day, I tend to book each day about dinner time when I’ve a better idea to which campsite or hotel  I’ll reach?

[Hardy Boy]

Berwick-upon-Tweed   Must say I really enjoyed it here when I visited for a holiday.  Once part of Scotland.
The Beaches were very good and even better half hour drive away in Bamburgh.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/36903801/english-town-city-happiest-place-northumberland/