Confirmation June's bike was stolen.

[Adam]

Sorry to butt in.
But if everyone has calmed down and is happy now I would like to talk about another discrepancy regarding AE.
Now,much has been said about the time at which JB phoned Julie Mugford the second time on the night of the murders. In her first statement Julie said it was about 3.30,but then changed the time to 3.15 in later statements after checking with her flat mates.
Now heres the thing,in one of AEs statements she says that on the 8th Aug when Julie gave her first statement regarding the time of the second call, that the police asked if she was sure of the time because it was very important,so Julie phoned someone there and then and changed the time to 3.15.
Yet there is no mention of 3.15 on Julie's first statement,and just why was the time of the second call important on 8th Aug? JB wasn't even a suspect,so what possible reason would the police have to tell her that the time of the call was important and to double check?

Anyway,unless I am  mistaken,AE stated that Julie changed the time from 3.30 to 3.15 the first time she was interviewed,yet this is not reflected in her first statement from 8th Aug.as far as I can see.

Bamber called Julie at 3.00am in my view.

Certainly before he called the police.

[snow66!]

Bamber called Julie at 3.00am in my view.

Certainly before he called the police.

Always go by a witnesse's first statement Adam.
We are told that over and over again.

[David1819]

Why don't you volunteer to become a moderator?

That would mean having to subject myself to all the inanity and indiscretion that is currently kept at bay by my ignore list settings.

Moderating a forum that does not ban disruptive and undesirable users is like trying to throw buckets of water out of a sinking boat instead of fixing the hole. What is the point?

[Roch]

Moderating a forum that does not ban disruptive and undesirable users is like trying to throw buckets of water out of a sinking boat instead of fixing the hole. What is the point?

Well one thing's for sure.. if a penalty of some sort is heading Adam's way, nobody can say that Adam hasn't been given a fair chance on here. 

[ILB]

Adam definitely posts to goad people. I am well aware of that.

Having said that at times can post some interesting debates. But then spoils it with childish insults
 

[Adam]

Always go by a witnesse's first statement Adam.
We are told that over and over again.

Disagree with that.

People are often submitting new WS's. Because they forgot something or got something wrong on the original WS.

[Adam]

If the bike had arrived at Goldhanger 2 months prior to the massacre, that would have made a big difference.

Even better if Julie had actually cycled from Goldhanger to Tolleshunt D'arcy to get a bus.

Would have been much more convincing that he had been allowed to borrow the bike for a percific reason other than the massacre. 

[Adam]

If at Goldhanger for 2 months, the prosecution could still say he had the chance to cycle to WHF.

However less convincing than the bike arriving 2 days before the massacre.

[Adam]

As usual Julie would be the main player here.

If she had said she had cycled to Tolleshunt D'arcy over those 2 months, that would have benefitted Bamber.

But hypothetical.  The bike arrived 2 days before the massacre. 

[snow66!]

If at Goldhanger for 2 months, the prosecution could still say he had the chance to cycle to WHF.

However less convincing than the bike arriving 2 days before the massacre.

That bike couldn't have been at Goldhanger for 2 months Adam,June only bought it about 3 and a half weeks before the murders.

[Adam]

That bike couldn't have been at Goldhanger for 2 months Adam,June only bought it about 3 and a half weeks before the murders.

That is true.

Do you think Bamber would have bought a bike just before the massacre if June's was not available?

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That would have been a good new thread question.

[Rob_]

That bike couldn't have been at Goldhanger for 2 months Adam,June only bought it about 3 and a half weeks before the murders.

But Bamber planned the crime for months Snow? I would like to know what he actually planned!

[Adam]

But Bamber planned the crime for months Snow? I would like to know what he actually planned!

Do you believe Bamber would have bought a bike just before the massacre if June's was not available?

[Rob_]

Do you believe Bamber would have bought a bike just before the massacre if June's was not available?

No he would have walked how many more times Adam.

[snow66!]

But Bamber planned the crime for months Snow? I would like to know what he actually planned!

Thats what I have been trying to get across to Adam Rob,as soon as Bamber decided to use a bike for the murders he would have bought one.not waited till Sheila and the boys arrived and nicked June's one.
And as I said,according to Julie JB had decided to use a bike long before June spoke of buying one.And how could Bamber predict that June would buy a bike berore Sheila visited or even if she would end up buying one at all?

As Adam said himself Sheila AND the boys visiting the farm was a rare occasion,so JB wouldn't want to miss his chance for want of having a bike at hand ready to go.No way he would have depended on his mum buying one surely?