Sheila did not die, until after 8.10am, in bedroom...

[grahameb]

You see! Even I can talk and talk and say nothing at all. Just like some on this forum.

[chochokeira]

someone must have thought she hadnt been dead long, the marks on her neck look like finger prints as id someone as felt for a pulse, why would they check for a pulse ? they must have known/suspected she was recently dead ( as in minutes) or they wouldnt bother feeling for a pulse.

did that make sense? 

That's a very good point, Andrea +1

[chochokeira]

Nowhere in those logs does it state the female as being the initial body.  It states male first.  Female second.  The period in question is almost 40 minutes from the commencement of the raid to the farmhouse being declared secure.  Nobody during that period, nor after it, corrected the error in the logs recorded.  The logs in question don't come to light until Jeremy Bamber has been in prison for 18 years.  And it takes a court case to bring to light these logs.

Now are we to believe that these logs, invisible for 18 years, were guarded to the extent that those in possession were prepared to go to court to prevent disclosure, solely because Collins made a mistake?

Jeremy Bamber cannot be allowed to 'get off' due to a mistake made by Collins?  Isn't that a bit far fetched?

Excellent points, Rocky, well said! +1

[Hartley]

someone must have thought she hadnt been dead long, the marks on her neck look like finger prints as id someone as felt for a pulse, why would they check for a pulse ? they must have known/suspected she was recently dead ( as in minutes) or they wouldnt bother feeling for a pulse.

did that make sense? 

That's a very good point, Andrea +1

Not necessarily, it's not the conclusion that Macdonell comes to.

[andrea]

hartley, this is ot, but do you remember when someposted a link that shows what other members on the forum are doing at any given time, might have been bob, could you find it and put it with your statement thread, plz, thanks 

[Roch]

hartley, this is ot, but do you remember when someposted a link that shows what other members on the forum are doing at any given time, might have been bob, could you find it and put it with your statement thread, plz, thanks 

It was me. It's near the bottom of the screen on the left...

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=who

[shonapugs]

Is that what you're waiting for, Grahame, little baby judges to be weaned? I hope JB's got a pension plan.

Yes they're all waiting in the wings in their prams ready to jump into the judges seat. For out of the mouth of babes.

Grahame, you've had babes and sucklings. What usually comes out of their mouths?

[Hartley]

Beat me to it, but I would have been wrong, I thought Andrea meant the stats page.

 http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=stats

[andrea]

hartley, this is ot, but do you remember when someposted a link that shows what other members on the forum are doing at any given time, might have been bob, could you find it and put it with your statement thread, plz, thanks 

It was me. It's near the bottom of the screen on the left...

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=who

thanks roch 

[Roch]

Yeah harterz, i'm addicted to using that page now. Think i might have caught bob smiting me on it the other night.  |It's quite funny watching what people are doing.  You can't see the link for it on the jb case discussion page.  you need to be on the home or jb forum page.

[Hartley]

Yeah harterz, i'm addicted to using that page now. Think i might have caught bob smiting me on it the other night.  |It's quite funny watching what people are doing.  You can't see the link for it on the jb case discussion page.  you need to be on the home or jb forum page.

Yes it does show the smiters up, it's also handy to see if someone's about to post in a thread you've been involved, or whether it's time to call it a night.

[andrea]

i cant find where it is, i looked on the home page but wwhich bit do i click?

[Roch]

Yeah harterz, i'm addicted to using that page now. Think i might have caught bob smiting me on it the other night.  |It's quite funny watching what people are doing.  You can't see the link for it on the jb case discussion page.  you need to be on the home or jb forum page.

Yes it does show the smiters up, it's also handy to see if someone's about to post in a thread you've been involved, or whether it's time to call it a night.

Totally agree. Couldn't have put it better.  But it's a bit like watching the kettle boil.

[Hartley]

Haha yes, a bit like that.  :D

[Roch]

i cant find where it is, i looked on the home page but wwhich bit do i click?

Look for where it says 'users on line'  ... then click on the figures associated with that.