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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #75 on: September 09, 2012, 07:27:PM »
Taff suffered Multiple injuries including a Fractured Skull....
Who was with him when this happened and who decided his death was accident?

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #76 on: September 09, 2012, 07:28:PM »
Taff suffered Multiple injuries including a Fractured Skull....
Who was with him when this happened and who decided his death was accident?

Would EP have investigated the accident / death as per their normal procedures for anybody who would die an accidental death within their force area? 

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #77 on: September 09, 2012, 07:33:PM »
How strange that his diary/notebook was stolen too,,,,and from the loft.? What was it doing up there.?

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #78 on: September 09, 2012, 07:39:PM »
did taff jones have any relatives.

and if so what do they say about the verdict.
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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #79 on: September 09, 2012, 07:44:PM »
did taff jones have any relatives.

and if so what do they say about the verdict.


Taff Jones was married. His wife was out when the accident occured. I believe she has not said anything about it.

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2012, 07:46:PM »
Would EP have investigated the accident / death as per their normal procedures for anybody who would die an accidental death within their force area?

Hi Roch...I did a bit of research on here and noted that Keira had posted and said she had thoroughly looked into Taff's death and she believed that it was an accident and there was nothing suspicious about it....It just happened at the wrong time...... :) :) :)

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2012, 07:52:PM »

Taff Jones was married. His wife was out when the accident occured. I believe she has not said anything about it.

well i guess she must accept the verdict then.

and if she excepts then i think it must be the correct verdict.
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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2012, 07:55:PM »
Hi Roch...I did a bit of research on here and noted that Keira had posted and said she had thoroughly looked into Taff's death and she believed that it was an accident and there was nothing suspicious about it....It just happened at the wrong time...... :) :) :)

Hey,Patti,,so long as it wasn't the same coroner that Ian Thomlinson had.

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2012, 08:02:PM »
Hey,Patti,,so long as it wasn't the same coroner that Ian Thomlinson had.

Hi Lookout, Taff had 3 grown up children and a wife...I feel sure they would have pursed it if there had been any suspicion of foul play...I Know someone who is pursuing this and approached me for help.....You know what I am like and as soon as this friend has finished this line of investigation it will be up to them to publish their findings....You know that it is impossible for me to do this....lololol trust me!  :) :) :)

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #84 on: September 09, 2012, 08:15:PM »
yes i agrea i cant belive the family wouldent kick up a fuss if the death was suspicious.

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2012, 08:19:PM »
Hi Lookout, Taff had 3 grown up children and a wife...I feel sure they would have pursed it if there had been any suspicion of foul play...I Know someone who is pursuing this and approached me for help.....You know what I am like and as soon as this friend has finished this line of investigation it will be up to them to publish their findings....You know that it is impossible for me to do this....lololol trust me!  :) :) :)

The thing is Patti,that years ago they'd have been more likely to have got away with dodgy evidence,as it was unheard of compared to today where people are more aware of corruption,especially where the police are concerned. In Ian Thomlinsons' case,there'd been corruption in the officer that said " he only pushed the man ".The coroner had said natural causes,because the man suffered medical problems anyway,so how easy was that.? But the family weren't happy with the outcome and sought for the truth.
To cut a long story short,Ian had suffered a ruptured liver because he'd been bashed,not just pushed,so as a consequence,the coroner was dismissed from his job.

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2012, 08:21:PM »
Hi Roch...I did a bit of research on here and noted that Keira had posted and said she had thoroughly looked into Taff's death and she believed that it was an accident and there was nothing suspicious about it....It just happened at the wrong time...... :) :) :)

Well, accidents do happen Patti. 

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #87 on: September 09, 2012, 08:29:PM »
The thing is Patti,that years ago they'd have been more likely to have got away with dodgy evidence,as it was unheard of compared to today where people are more aware of corruption,especially where the police are concerned. In Ian Thomlinsons' case,there'd been corruption in the officer that said " he only pushed the man ".The coroner had said natural causes,because the man suffered medical problems anyway,so how easy was that.? But the family weren't happy with the outcome and sought for the truth.
To cut a long story short,Ian had suffered a ruptured liver because he'd been bashed,not just pushed,so as a consequence,the coroner was dismissed from his job.

I see where you are coming from. Sometimes we look into things too deep, I think...It is sad that Taff died at such a crucial time. We don't know if he was alone or with the family when the accident happened......There should be local newspaper reports held in the main library either on film or fiche....giving more details of the accident....I doubt if a coroners reports exists, for they get destroyed after 10 years....If there was an inquest it would have been in the local newspaper.....So when are we going to Essex to have a look...lol  :) :) :) :) :)

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #88 on: September 09, 2012, 08:38:PM »
I see where you are coming from. Sometimes we look into things too deep, I think...It is sad that Taff died at such a crucial time. We don't know if he was alone or with the family when the accident happened......There should be local newspaper reports held in the main library either on film or fiche....giving more details of the accident....I doubt if a coroners reports exists, for they get destroyed after 10 years....If there was an inquest it would have been in the local newspaper.....So when are we going to Essex to have a look...lol  :) :) :) :) :)

It was in the newspaper Patti,I remember seeing it along with a pic of himself,and a few words about his work over the years.

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Re: The odds of dying by falling off a ladder
« Reply #89 on: September 09, 2012, 08:41:PM »
It was in the newspaper Patti,I remember seeing it along with a pic of himself,and a few words about his work over the years.
It's on the last fell of ladder thread.
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