Occupied Palestine- Is Nasrallah correct?

[gringo]

Hezbollah leader, Sayed Nasrallah, in a speech a month or so back had the following to say;

"it has been said that if the entity continues on this path, it is not certain that it will reach 80 years [the State of Israel was created almost 75 years ago]. For they consider that the Jews had two entities [states with Jerusalem as their capital] in the past, the first entity in the time of the Prophets David and Solomon, peace be upon them, and they consider that it lasted less than 80 years before it disappeared, and the second entity in the time of the Romans, which also disappeared before reaching 80 years. And these fears are haunting them now. Of course, such fears also have a religious and cultural aspect. Who is it that keeps talking about these fears [that Israel will perish a third time before reaching 80 years of age]?"

    The occupiers are currently fighting amongst themselves and lashing out everywhere. Having bombed Damascus on four separate nights this week alone, with no condemnation from any Western media or governments, the security forces of so-called Israel have sent their thugs into Al Aqsa Mosque to beat worshippers. See the brutal violence below


https://twitter.com/i/status/1644049061224517632

    The attacks on Gaza increase and it now looks as though Lebanon is about to be attacked. Excellent summary of the current state of play in article below;

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/04/is-netanyahoo-again-looking-for-war.html#more

   "It is not yet clear that a escalation can be prevented. Currently the Israeli security cabinet is meeting. United Nations peacekeepers (UNIFIL) in south Lebanon have allegedly received orders to enter their bomb shelters. UNIFIl called the called the situation "extremely serious".
   

   

[Steve_uk]

Hezbollah leader, Sayed Nasrallah, in a speech a month or so back had the following to say;

"it has been said that if the entity continues on this path, it is not certain that it will reach 80 years [the State of Israel was created almost 75 years ago]. For they consider that the Jews had two entities [states with Jerusalem as their capital] in the past, the first entity in the time of the Prophets David and Solomon, peace be upon them, and they consider that it lasted less than 80 years before it disappeared, and the second entity in the time of the Romans, which also disappeared before reaching 80 years. And these fears are haunting them now. Of course, such fears also have a religious and cultural aspect. Who is it that keeps talking about these fears [that Israel will perish a third time before reaching 80 years of age]?"

    The occupiers are currently fighting amongst themselves and lashing out everywhere. Having bombed Damascus on four separate nights this week alone, with no condemnation from any Western media or governments, the security forces of so-called Israel have sent their thugs into Al Aqsa Mosque to beat worshippers. See the brutal violence below


https://twitter.com/i/status/1644049061224517632

    The attacks on Gaza increase and it now looks as though Lebanon is about to be attacked. Excellent summary of the current state of play in article below;

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/04/is-netanyahoo-again-looking-for-war.html#more

   "It is not yet clear that a escalation can be prevented. Currently the Israeli security cabinet is meeting. United Nations peacekeepers (UNIFIL) in south Lebanon have allegedly received orders to enter their bomb shelters. UNIFIl called the called the situation "extremely serious".
   

 

The whole article is the most anti-Semitic rant I've read for a long time. Since when did anyone take stones and firecrackers into a place of worship?

[David1819]

The author of that MOA article cannot even spell Netanyahu's name correctly. The Barflies have had too much Whiskey it seems. 

[gringo]

The author of that MOA article cannot even spell Netanyahu's name correctly. The Barflies have had too much Whiskey it seems. 

    He is German. English is his second language. His written English is a higher standard than you are capable of despite this.

[gringo]

The whole article is the most anti-Semitic rant I've read for a long time. Since when did anyone take stones and firecrackers into a place of worship?

   Since when did anybody take tear gas and batons into a place of worship? Somebody else's place of worship whilst jackbooted up?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1644153193469734914

[David1819]

Considering Nasrallah has conveniently omitted the fact that the Kingdom of Judah was ruled from Jerusalem for 400 years by a number of Jewish kings from the lineage of David. This renders his entire statement moot. Thou he is correct in inadvertently confirming the Jewish people had state entities in Israel prior to anyone else and those states only ceased to exist due to foreign conquest and no fault of their own. So in that sense he is correct.

[gringo]

Considering Nasrallah has conveniently omitted the fact that the Kingdom of Judah was ruled from Jerusalem for 400 years by a number of Jewish kings from the lineage of David. This renders his entire statement moot. Thou he is correct in inadvertently confirming the Jewish people had state entities in Israel prior to anyone else and those states only ceased to exist due to foreign conquest and no fault of their own. So in that sense he is correct.

   The apartheid state is dying from within from its own internal contradictions. Born from terror-it will die the same way. Nasrallah is correct that the two previous incarnations of Israel failed to reach 80 years. The current interlopers in Palestine will soon enter History's dustbin. They have brought nothing but war and death.

[Steve_uk]

   Since when did anybody take tear gas and batons into a place of worship? Somebody else's place of worship whilst jackbooted up?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1644153193469734914

They refused to come out when asked. There were a handful of troublemakers fraternizing with genuine worshippers.

[Steve_uk]

   The apartheid state is dying from within from its own internal contradictions. Born from terror-it will die the same way. Nasrallah is correct that the two previous incarnations of Israel failed to reach 80 years. The current interlopers in Palestine will soon enter History's dustbin. They have brought nothing but war and death.

The Palestinians should have accepted the UN Resolution 181 in 1947. They have only themselves to blame for their plight now.

[gringo]

They refused to come out when asked. There were a handful of troublemakers fraternizing with genuine worshippers.

   Wonder why they didn't come out "when asked" by the state backed jackbooted baton wielding thugs? Are you really this blind? Would you think Jewish worshippers refusing to leave a synagogue "when asked" by some jackbooted baton wielding Islamists would be deserving of a similar fate?
     How about Christians refusing to leave... You should get the picture by now.
     You should be able to call out state backed "armed security forces" storming places of worship without question. You are an apologist for the brutality when you attempt to justify such inhumanity.
   

[gringo]

The Palestinians should have accepted the UN Resolution 181 in 1947. They have only themselves to blame for their plight now.

    The supposed state of Israel has never accepted any UN resolution. Why would the Palestinians accept the theft of their land by white colonialists to solve a European problem? The thuggery and continued land theft and expansion-Israeli regimes inviting the most thuggish Zionists from around the world, to continue expanding the "illegal settlements" by brutally evicting Palestinians whose land it is, shows who the real villains are.
     Your "victim blaming" is pathetic. The illegitimate apartheid Zionist regime holding the world to ransom with it's undeclared nuclear weapons and continuing land theft and aggressive warmongering towards its neighbours is about to meet history's dustbin.

[Steve_uk]

    The supposed state of Israel has never accepted any UN resolution. Why would the Palestinians accept the theft of their land by white colonialists to solve a European problem? The thuggery and continued land theft and expansion-Israeli regimes inviting the most thuggish Zionists from around the world, to continue expanding the "illegal settlements" by brutally evicting Palestinians whose land it is, shows who the real villains are.
     Your "victim blaming" is pathetic. The illegitimate apartheid Zionist regime holding the world to ransom with it's undeclared nuclear weapons and continuing land theft and aggressive warmongering towards its neighbours is about to meet history's dustbin.

They did accept partition, UN Resolution 181. It was the Arabs who rejected it. Your other comments are beyond the pale.

[gringo]

They did accept partition, UN Resolution 181. It was the Arabs who rejected it. Your other comments are beyond the pale.

   The occupiers still refuse to define their borders. They accept no international ruling or law. They bleat on about the supposed transgressions of Iran(signatories to the NPT) whilst themselves refusing to sign up to any international oversight via the IAEA(International Atomic Energy Agency) and not being signatoties of the NPT(Non Proliferatiuon Treaty) holding the world to nuclear ransom.
     Why should the Arabs accept the theft of their territory by European interlopers and terrorists?
     They are no different to the white colonialists of South Africa-according to those who fought against and overthrew the white colonialists. Those who know and recognise apartheid by colonialists recognise the Zionist regime for what it is.

[Steve_uk]

   The occupiers still refuse to define their borders. They accept no international ruling or law. They bleat on about the supposed transgressions of Iran(signatories to the NPT) whilst themselves refusing to sign up to any international oversight via the IAEA(International Atomic Energy Agency) and not being signatoties of the NPT(Non Proliferatiuon Treaty) holding the world to nuclear ransom.
     Why should the Arabs accept the theft of their territory by European interlopers and terrorists?
     They are no different to the white colonialists of South Africa-according to those who fought against and overthrew the white colonialists. Those who know and recognise apartheid by colonialists recognise the Zionist regime for what it is.

But the Jews have been there 4000 years. Check out Moses. I agree the Palestinians should have a state, but they will never be allowed an army or any weapons which may be used to destroy Israel. That's just the reality.

[gringo]

But the Jews have been there 4000 years. Check out Moses. I agree the Palestinians should have a state, but they will never be allowed an army or any weapons which may be used to destroy Israel. That's just the reality.

   The Zionists have only been there for 75 years. The reality is that the Ethno apartheid state won't make it to 80. The world is changing and the abomination of Israel will not remain when all is done. There will still be Jews in Palestine but there will be no Zionist supremacist regime. It is the white European Zionist Jews with their supremacist mindset that are the cause of most of the troubles in the Middle East.
     Palestinians are not alone against the Zionist occupiers. There is a big enough army and enough weapons behind them. The Zionists can only lose once and then it's over. No strategic depth at all. The US presence in Middle East becoming weaker and more vulnerable by the day. Alliances and cooperation between Arab states and Iran growing and blooming. The Zios brutality and occupation is coming to an end. Time and events are not on their side.