PC John Manners statement - 23/09/1985

[Hartley]

PC John Manners statement - 23/09/1985

[clifford]

He makes no mention of the window being opened as an escape route. In fact he said no windows were open

[Hartley]

He makes no mention of the window being opened as an escape route. In fact he said no windows were open

No he doesn't Cliff, he says:

"Whilst I was carrying out the search I was not aware of any open windows or external doors".

[clifford]

He makes no mention of the window being opened as an escape route. In fact he said no windows were open

No he doesn't Cliff, he says:

"Whilst I was carrying out the search I was not aware of any open windows or external doors".

Not sure if you are agreeing opr not Harters

[Hartley]

He makes no mention of the window being opened as an escape route. In fact he said no windows were open

No he doesn't Cliff, he says:

"Whilst I was carrying out the search I was not aware of any open windows or external doors".

Not sure if you are agreeing opr not Harters

Well what I am saying is that you are incorrect in your statement that "In fact he said no windows were open" - that is incorrect, he said no such thing.

[clifford]

He makes no mention of the window being opened as an escape route. In fact he said no windows were open

No he doesn't Cliff, he says:

"Whilst I was carrying out the search I was not aware of any open windows or external doors".

Not sure if you are agreeing opr not Harters

Well what I am saying is that you are incorrect in your statement that "In fact he said no windows were open" - that is incorrect, he said no such thing.

Tch.

[clifford]

Good posts by the way Harters. +1

[grahameb]

I think he's saying that he didn't notice any windows or doors open. Implying that there could have been some open.

[chochokeira]

He makes no mention of the window being opened as an escape route. In fact he said no windows were open

No he doesn't Cliff, he says:

"Whilst I was carrying out the search I was not aware of any open windows or external doors".

He was, however, hyper alert and paying particular attention to such things.

[Hartley]

He makes no mention of the window being opened as an escape route. In fact he said no windows were open

No he doesn't Cliff, he says:

"Whilst I was carrying out the search I was not aware of any open windows or external doors".

He was, however, hyper alert and paying particular attention to such things.

I posted the statement for people to read, make of it what you will.

[shonapugs]

Hartley, can you make out the couple of sentences that have been crossed out?

[Hartley]

Hartley, can you make out the couple of sentences that have been crossed out?

Looks like it talks about knocked over chairs, can't make much of it out, not sure why it's been crossed out.

[shonapugs]

Thank you, Hartley. I can make out general dissarray and scuffs on floor - I wonder why it was crossed out?

[shonapugs]

Ooh! Good work, Sarann!

[chochokeira]

Hartley, can you make out the couple of sentences that have been crossed out?

Hi Shona, I read the crossed out paragraph as:

read it as:

"The Kitchen was in general disarray, chairs (upturned?) and breakfast dishes and food stuffs on the floor. There were also bloodstains on the floor."