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Minsk Accords-who broke them-why does it matter?

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gringo:

--- Quote from: Steve_uk on July 03, 2023, 09:10:PM ---I suppose I'm making up the extra demands made by Russia on 13 May. You don't see your contradictions:  politicians demanding self-determination for oblasts on Ukrainian territory whilst playing lip service to democracy in Russia itself.

By the way gringo: if you ever have a meeting with Putin make sure it's on the ground floor.

--- End quote ---
  Yes you are making up the extra demands made by Russia. You have raised them earlier in the thread and not surprisingly failed to be able to name these demands or any breach of protocol that you alleged. The unnamed breach of protocol supposedly alleged by France and Germany, who interestingly are also the guarantors of Minsk 2 and who admitted to bad faith from day one. An undefined breach of protocol, you say? alleged by Germany and France who pissed and shat and then set on fire any protocol from day one by their own admission, you say? An undefined allegation from such admittedly duplicitous actors is worth less than nothing.
     The supposed extra demands that you describe are in the Minsk Agreements. I posted them earlier. You have nothing but hot air and fail to understand that you yourself with your contradictory posts have admitted that the fault lies entirely with Ukraine?NATO for the failure of Minsk. Signing them to buy time, which you now admit, is the smoking gun, Steve. Now you're just crying about Putin/Russia, you aren't making any coherent case.

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