What ties Bamber to the bike?

[ILB]

13 year olds may become difficult. Adults no.

Bamber's hatred for a man in his 20's was very severe. According to Julie, Mary, James Richards, Brett & Bamber himself.

Richards. The friend of Julie who played monopoly with banber in 1984

[Adam]

Don't dispute that MM was in r :-*regards to bamber venting frustration about June.

He may have done on many of occasion.

This however only became damaging against him because of the circumstance of being charged of five counts of murder.

Other than that it's a common thing that half of adolescents and early twenties do on a regular basis.

From a police perspective it's a gift

From reality you can balance it

Agree with that.

[Rob_]

So he could walk in the dark but not cycle..

Between 2 locations he lived/had lived at & worked at.

Oh dear Adam we really lack imagination! a person walks at approx. 3mph, still a bit tricky but doable in the dark, cycling full pelt nope. Why don't you give it a try sometime?

I was working in the dark recently and even with torches tripped on a rabbit hole.

[ILB]

You just don't get it Adam do you.

You cannot just rely on the evidence of the accused former girlfriends mother for conjecture. I'm not saying she lied under oath. But all it states is that bamber mentioned to her he had a strained relationship with June.

Shelia also told a number of friends that she found her mother overbearing and told her friend Tora that she found her spooky.

We don't have a running commentary of banners day to day relationship with June other than snippets. The police just used mm as a cog in the prosecution machine against bamber because it paints him in a negative light.

[ILB]

So a lot ties Bamber to cycling on the bike.

However there is no CCTV or witnesses that saw him on it or any of the victims blood on the bike.

It really doesn't to put it bluntly.

If a space hopper or pogo stick was found at bourtree it could have been insinuated that he had used that.

[Adam]

It really doesn't to put it bluntly.

If a space hopper or pogo stick was found at bourtree it could have been insinuated that he had used that.

I don't agree that the prosecution case would have ever been Bamber got to/from WHF on a space hopper or pogo stick.

But cycling is a very strong narrative for the reasons in my thread post.

[ILB]

I don't agree that the prosecution case would have ever been Bamber got to/from WHF on a space hopper or pogo stick.

But cycling is a very strong narrative for the reasons in my thread post.

It's a mode of transport. Same as the car.

Without the bike being there. They'd have said he had drove.


His QC would have countered it been madness in him doing this. As somebody would have seen him.

[ILB]

Cycling is only a prosecution theory.

Saying bamber stole his mother's bike is ludicrous.

Without his diary or exact day to day movements coming up to the massacre we can't rule anything out

[ILB]

Bamber stated the bike had been at his cottage for a period of six to eight weeks prior the massacre.

Nothing to be honest to dispute this. It could have been borrowed for a mundane reason. Whether it been for Julie, car trouble, anythinf

[Adam]

It's a mode of transport. Same as the car.

Without the bike being there. They'd have said he had drove.


His QC would have countered it been madness in him doing this. As somebody would have seen him.

They wouldn't. They would have said he walked.

However cycling is more practical & Bamber stole June's bike just before the massacre.

[Adam]

Bamber stated the bike had been at his cottage for a period of six to eight weeks prior the massacre.

Nothing to be honest to dispute this. It could have been borrowed for a mundane reason. Whether it been for Julie, car trouble, anythinf

No he said it had been at his cottage around 6 weeks when interviewed. Which was a month after the massacre. He was very vague.

Julie only saw the bike on her last visit.

[ILB]

No he said it had been at his cottage around 6 weeks when interviewed. Which was a month after the massacre. He was very vague.

Julie only saw the bike on her last visit.

Saying six weeks as an answer is not vague. You can't expect someone to pin point for example " I got the bike on Friday July 15th at 3.45pm"

[lookout]

The next question is----was there a bell on the bike ?

[Bubo bubo]

The next question is----was there a bell on the bike ?

Goldhanger has no train station. The nearest mainline station to London is Witham. To get to the station the best way would be to cycle to the nearest bus stop on the Osborne service. It would make sense for Julie to use June's bike. If she was travelling to or from JB's cottage. In the Summer harvest time JB would be working all hours. Early starts and late finishes and would not always be able to give her a lift.