Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.

[David1819]

Well,it may be as simple as this Cutes.Once the cops decided that JB was going down,they decided they would beef up the evidence against him.They had nothing at all linking him to the crime scene,so they went over the general scenario of what happened and some bright spark came up with the silencer plan.

They had Sheilas blood,they had the silencer and they had witnesses more than willing to say they found it in a rather obscure place that the police had simply overlooked.Someone also remembered that some sort of struggle took place in the kitchen and the scratch marks idea sprang to mind.Perfect,that would nail Bamber good and proper.

It didn't directly place Bamber at the scene,but it proved someone put the silencer back after Sheila was dead,so,same thing.If Sheila wasn't the killer JB was.

So,for all we know ,the police may have simply given the relatives a script,the silencer may never have been in their possetion at all.It would certainly explain all the different statements of who was present when it was found and the different descriptions,ie the blob of jam,the hair,paint,no paint.Who phoned the cops,who handed it in etc,etc.

Then when Julie came forward,prompted by her friends,for whatever reason,this was perfect for the police.They told Julie that they had proof of JBs guilt,so she was more than happy to help them by doing her duty to help convict an evil monster,especially after certain guarentees to herself and Susan.

We know a different cop was appointed to carry out the JB murder investigation,but why?Everyone had been interviwed for the murder suicide,all the evidence had been gathered,yet all that was shelved.Was it because Ainsley was willing to bend the rules,and also obtain new witness statements painting a very black picture against Bamber.

So what we have actually ended up with really,is similar to starting watching a film half way through and trying to work out what happened at the beginning.Until the original  investigation file is disclosed to shed some further light,there will forever be doubt of Jeremy Bambers guilt.

This is crazy, and never happened.

[snow66!]

So it is Sheila's blood in the silencer. That's you, Lookout & David in agreement.

Wouldn't it be easier for the police to just say they did another search of WHF & found it?

Relying on the relatives finding it is very optimistic.

No,that would not work Adam,the police had vacated the scene and no silencer had been documented as an exhibit.No way could they say they searched again after Bamber was a suspect and found it.But they could just about get away with saying the relatives came across it in an out of the way nook.And that is why they had to say it was found and removed on 10 Aug,BEFORE  JB had entered the farm house.

Because realistically after JB had been in the house the police or relatives could not know if he had looked in the gun cupboard or not.That is why the silencer had to be documented as found and removed before JB had returned to the house after the murders.

If you think about it,it all makes perfect sense.And remember,after the funerals,JBs teachers,every police officer and his wife and of course all the relatives were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt.Rightly or WRONGLY, 100 percent sure.

So ask yourself a question in all honesty.Do you really believe if everyone were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt,that the cops would have any,ANY problem stitching up someone who they were sure was a dangerous twisted homicidal nutter.

Do you? DO YOU REALLY!! Time to waken up.

[Adam]

No,that would not work Adam,the police had vacated the scene and no silencer had been documented as an exhibit.No way could they say they searched again after Bamber was a suspect and found it.But they could just about get away with saying the relatives came across it in an out of the way nook.And that is why they had to say it was found and removed on 10 Aug,BEFORE  JB had entered the farm house.

Because realistically after JB had been in the house the police or relatives could not know if he had looked in the gun cupboard or not.That is why the silencer had to be documented as found and removed before JB had returned to the house after the murders.

If you think about it,it all makes perfect sense.And remember,after the funerals,JBs teachers,every police officer and his wife and of course all the relatives were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt.Rightly or WRONGLY, 100 percent sure.

So ask yourself a question in all honesty.Do you really believe if everyone were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt,that the cops would have any,ANY problem stitching up someone who they were sure was a dangerous twisted homicidal nutter.

Do you? DO YOU REALLY!! Time to waken up.

I thought an inventory of the gun cupboard was done.

[Adam]

No,that would not work Adam,the police had vacated the scene and no silencer had been documented as an exhibit.No way could they say they searched again after Bamber was a suspect and found it.But they could just about get away with saying the relatives came across it in an out of the way nook.And that is why they had to say it was found and removed on 10 Aug,BEFORE  JB had entered the farm house.

Because realistically after JB had been in the house the police or relatives could not know if he had looked in the gun cupboard or not.That is why the silencer had to be documented as found and removed before JB had returned to the house after the murders.

If you think about it,it all makes perfect sense.And remember,after the funerals,JBs teachers,every police officer and his wife and of course all the relatives were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt.Rightly or WRONGLY, 100 percent sure.

So ask yourself a question in all honesty.Do you really believe if everyone were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt,that the cops would have any,ANY problem stitching up someone who they were sure was a dangerous twisted homicidal nutter.

Do you? DO YOU REALLY!! Time to waken up.

Why not? Once the evidence Sheila did not commit the massacre emerged they could do further searches.

[snow66!]

This is crazy, and never happened.

Crazy,but possible Dave!

[Adam]

No,that would not work Adam,the police had vacated the scene and no silencer had been documented as an exhibit.No way could they say they searched again after Bamber was a suspect and found it.But they could just about get away with saying the relatives came across it in an out of the way nook.And that is why they had to say it was found and removed on 10 Aug,BEFORE  JB had entered the farm house.

Because realistically after JB had been in the house the police or relatives could not know if he had looked in the gun cupboard or not.That is why the silencer had to be documented as found and removed before JB had returned to the house after the murders.

If you think about it,it all makes perfect sense.And remember,after the funerals,JBs teachers,every police officer and his wife and of course all the relatives were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt.Rightly or WRONGLY, 100 percent sure.

So ask yourself a question in all honesty.Do you really believe if everyone were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt,that the cops would have any,ANY problem stitching up someone who they were sure was a dangerous twisted homicidal nutter.

Do you? DO YOU REALLY!! Time to waken up.

Very optimistic relying on the relatives finding it.

No guarantee they would even do a search. SJ gave AE the keys to do a tidy up as Bamber was on holiday.

[Adam]

No,that would not work Adam,the police had vacated the scene and no silencer had been documented as an exhibit.No way could they say they searched again after Bamber was a suspect and found it.But they could just about get away with saying the relatives came across it in an out of the way nook.And that is why they had to say it was found and removed on 10 Aug,BEFORE  JB had entered the farm house.

Because realistically after JB had been in the house the police or relatives could not know if he had looked in the gun cupboard or not.That is why the silencer had to be documented as found and removed before JB had returned to the house after the murders.

If you think about it,it all makes perfect sense.And remember,after the funerals,JBs teachers,every police officer and his wife and of course all the relatives were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt.Rightly or WRONGLY, 100 percent sure.

So ask yourself a question in all honesty.Do you really believe if everyone were 100 percent sure of Bambers guilt,that the cops would have any,ANY problem stitching up someone who they were sure was a dangerous twisted homicidal nutter.

Do you? DO YOU REALLY!! Time to waken up.

Do you believe all the other forensic evidence against Bamber is fabricated by the police? 

[snow66!]

Very optimistic relying on the relatives finding it.

No guarantee they would even do a search. SJ gave AE the keys to do a tidy up as Bamber was on holiday.

You are not listening again Adam,I pointed out that all they had to do was agree to write a statement to that effect!

[Adam]

Snow66! is relying on multiple invented things happening again. As in her Sheila scenario.

Bamber shooting Sheila is still the only watertight scenario. It also happened.

[snow66!]

I thought an inventory of the gun cupboard was done.

Yes,it probably was Adam,that is what makes it improbable the silencer was ever near it.Now you are getting it.

[Adam]

This is crazy, and never happened.

Snow66! does post a lot of crazy theories.

[Adam]

You are not listening again Adam,I pointed out that all they had to do was agree to write a statement to that effect!

You mean the police told the relatives to search the gun cupboard. Then lie in their WS's & say they were just asked to do a tidy up?

[snow66!]

Why not? Once the evidence Sheila did not commit the massacre emerged they could do further searches.

But Bamber had been in the house by that time Adam,think it through.

[Adam]

But Bamber had been in the house by that time Adam,think it through.

So what? Bamber was not aware of back spatter or the aga scratches. So the silencer would still be there.

[snow66!]

Do you believe all the other forensic evidence against Bamber is fabricated by the police?

I am simply pointing out what is possible Adam,can you say that isn't what happened?