Summary of flaws in ILB's Sheila scenario:

[ILB]

Hopefully ILB creates a second scenario which does not include these 24 major flaws.

It needs to match the crime scene. The broken rifle butt, scratched aga, smashed ceiling light, smashed watch & upturned furniture shows Nevill was brutally beaten downstairs. After being shot 4 times upstairs.

ILB has a fully fit Nevill being brutally beaten upstairs. Twice. And shot 4 times upstairs. In that case he would have died upstairs.

I never attested to him getting brutally beaten upstairs. I said he was hit and beaten. No mortally.

You make it up as you go along

[Adam]

I never attested to him getting brutally beaten upstairs. I said he was hit and beaten. No mortally.

You make it up as you go along

So there was a kitchen fight?

You said Sheila knocked over all the items in the kitchen. While everyone slept.

You said Nevill was beaten twice upstairs while fully fit. Then shot 4 times upstairs.

[Adam]

If a fully fit Nevill was beaten so badly (again) upstairs, that Sheila could shoot him in the face from inches away (twice) & twice in the torso, Nevill would have collapsed & died upstairs. 

[lookout]

A fully fit Nevill would have bashed JB to a pulp !

[lookout]

So why didn't he ?? It's because he was dealing with a woman and that woman was his daughter !!

[Adam]

So why didn't he ?? It's because he was dealing with a woman and that woman was his daughter !!

A fully fit Nevill or June would have just taken the rifle off Sheila.

ILB says the rifle was empty when Sheila started hitting Nevill with it upstairs.

It was also empty when Nevill started phoning Bamber's AM. Sheila a few feet away reloading. According to ILB.

[lookout]

A fully fit Nevill or June would have just taken the rifle off Sheila.

ILB says the rifle was empty when Sheila started hitting Nevill with it upstairs.

It was also empty when Nevill started phoning Bamber's AM. Sheila a few feet away reloading. According to ILB.

So why didn't one of them grab the other rifle and shoot JB in the back ?

[Adam]

So why didn't one of them grab the other rifle and shoot JB in the back ?

June & Nevill were shot 9 times in/by the bed. Nevill was then brutally beaten in the kitchen. As the evidence shows.

Not much of shooting Bamber in the back.

[lookout]

It doesn't make sense to me that none of the three adults couldn't have even fired a gun outside to attract attention. There were cottages nearby who would have heard a shotgun going off in the night outside of the farmhouse.

A chap walking his dog that night at 10pm or thereabouts, actually heard the sound of a gun being fired. He gave a statement. At that time, Nevill would have still been in the fields as he left for there after JB left for home after supper. The twins could already have been shot-----we DON'T know before Nevill got back.

The chap's statement is probably with EP along with " Taff's " notebook and other original notes etc when it was 4 murders and a suicide.

[ILB]

If a fully fit Nevill was beaten so badly (again) upstairs, that Sheila could shoot him in the face from inches away (twice) & twice in the torso, Nevill would have collapsed & died upstairs.

Don't put words in my mouth

I said beaten with a rifle. I never said brutally beaten

[lookout]

Notice my posts get side-lined ? Selective eyesight.

[Adam]

Don't put words in my mouth

I said beaten with a rifle. I never said brutally beaten

So Nevill was mildly beaten upstairs. Twice. Prior to being shot 4 times upstairs.

Where did he get his brutal beating?

[ILB]

Notice my posts get side-lined ? Selective eyesight.

Not from me lookout. I appreciate your posts and insights.

[lookout]

Not from me lookout. I appreciate your posts and insights.

No, I know it's not you ILB.

[ILB]

So Nevill was mildly beaten upstairs. Twice. Prior to being shot 4 times upstairs.

Where did he get his brutal beating?

Do you ascertain the shots finished him off or the beating?

After all you dismissed the rifle as " weak rifle hunting used for hunting rabbits"