Burning down of the caravan park shop.

[lookout]

Hi Lookout,I am not referring to the photo of the earring,I am talking about the photo that Roch posted at the bottom of page 16,the photo of Sheila with blood smears all over her face.I am sure that is the morgue photo that the campaign team are talking about in their 'Alibi' thread.

Oh okay snow, I just mentioned her ear because it was so puffed up through someone trying to rip her earring off-----which by the way had a pendant drop.

[lookout]

I reckon that it had been a " woman to woman " struggle/fight going by the injuries.

[snow66!]

I reckon that it had been a " woman to woman " struggle/fight going by the injuries.

Yes,but what the campaign team are getting at,is the fact that Sheila had continued to bleed quite profusely while in transit from the Whitehouse to the morgue,claiming it proves that she hadn't been long deceased.I think that is what they mean Lookout.

[Roch]

Well,I found it interesting Roch,it seems to confirm that the photo that you posted on page 16 of the Drop/pendant,earring topic,is indeed that of Sheila,and that it was taken at the morgue.

If you go to the JB Official campaign site and click onto the Alibi section on the side menu,well down the page you will find written---There are also photos of Sheila still bleeding at the scene and further pictures taken at the mortuary show even more blood had flown from her mouth and nose,and was widely spread onto her face.----If you remember,there was quite a discussion about the photo.

So the campaign team are saying there are several morgue photos in their possession.And didn't Vanezis say that there were photos taken after the bodies were washed? Those are the ones you need to see to confirm the smaller wounds Roch.Maybe JBs defence team have already seen them?

Hi Snow,

Have you got a link please? I would like to read it.

Thanks..

[snow66!]

Hi Snow,

Have you got a link please? I would like to read it.

Thanks..

Hi Roch,sorry,I dont know how to post a link.But all you have to do is go to the 'Jeremy Bamber official web site' then click onto the 'Alibi' thread from the left hand side menu,if you read that page you will find reference to the photo of Sheila that you posted on page 16 of the Drop/pandent topic.At least,I take it to be that photo they are talking about among others.See what you think.

[Rob_]

Bamber had to shoot Nevill & June 15 times.

So he would not expect Sheila shooting herself twice to be brought up. If he became a suspect.

It was a very low powered weapon.

Nevil and June were shot 15 times because the shooter was in a total rage, it's has nothing to do with the power of the rifle which could easily kill someone at close range with just one shot.

[Rob_]

ILB!!! Do you really believe, having rid himself of all other impediments, and being close enough to his inheritance to smell it and taste it, that he'd have walked away from Sheila, not knowing, with absolute certainty, that she'd been mortally wounded, and wouldn't recover to say what had transpired? 'Course, we must also allow for a smidgeon of humanity and believe that the thought of leaving her in pain would have troubled him.

Allow for a smidgeon of humanity really Jane? If someone can shot dead their two parents and two young boys they would have absolutely no humanity at all!

[lookout]

Allow for a smidgeon of humanity really Jane? If someone can shot dead their two parents and two young boys they would have absolutely no humanity at all!

Which begs the question-----which sibling suffered from narcissistic personality behaviour ?

In it's advanced form:

Relationship difficulties.
Problems at work or school.
Depression and anxiety.
Physical health problems.
Drug or alcohol misuse.
Suicidal thoughts or behaviour.

Both overprotective and also neglectful parenting can both have an impact, as can mis-matches in parent/child relationships. Genetics ( unknown birth father to Sheila ) Neurobiology---connection between  the brain and behaviour and thinking.

Which psychiatrists were correct in their diagnosis of both Sheila and Jeremy ?

Sheila had had a multitude of mental health problems, probably beginning with her first trauma of a termination, followed by other birth traumas-----PTSD today which is treated from when it becomes evident. Left untreated/undiscovered/undiagnosed it can lead to severe mental health problems.

[Adam]

Nevil and June were shot 15 times because the shooter was in a total rage, it's has nothing to do with the power of the rifle which could easily kill someone at close range with just one shot.

Oh yes. Sheila waiving the rifle around her head like a hammer thrower.

Nevill repeatedly ringing Bamber's AM.

All this after 'something wakes Nevill'.

[lookout]

Nevill didn't even go to bed that night !

[Adam]

Nevill didn't even go to bed that night !

So that's why he was shot 4 times in/by the bed & found bare footed in his pyjamas.

[lookout]

So that's why he was shot 4 times in/by the bed & found bare footed in his pyjamas.

Nope, you've got it wrong !

[lookout]

Nevill had only just got out of the shower to don his pyjama bottoms----no blood on the jacket,remember ?

[Rob_]

Oh yes. Sheila waiving the rifle around her head like a hammer thrower.

Nevill repeatedly ringing Bamber's AM.

All this after 'something wakes Nevill'.

Well she would not have held the rifle like a SAS sniper would Adam would she, hope you don't want a source.

About the only gun she could handle was the one that was used that night, very low recoil etc.

[David1819]

Thanks for response. I will reply properly to this post and one of David's posts on the same topic, when I get the chance.

Roch are you going to reply to this and my post #112? You,ve had a month to get a chance.