Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber

[Rob_]

Well again we come to the point Adam made earlier, namely that the gun was used for vermin and Jeremy couldn't possibly know how many bullets he would need to ensure death for all victims.

Well I don't agree with Adam on this, at close range the rifle was lethal, JB could have committed the crime with just five shots, but this would have looked suspicious. He could have used nine or ten shots and I don't think anyone would have questioned this?

[Adam]

How do I know so much on the wills?

From Bamber himself.

[Adam]

Well I don't agree with Adam on this, at close range the rifle was lethal, JB could have committed the crime with just five shots, but this would have looked suspicious. He could have used nine or ten shots and I don't think anyone would have questioned this?

Yes an 11 shot massacre would have looked very clinical & proficient.

Then again having to reload twice did him no favours.

Suspect he felt either way would not be a problem. Unless the police start digging.

[snow66!]

But Jeremy had already claimed he received a telephone call from Nevill that first Wednesday 7th August, so the relatives would have known about this claim then. I don't understand your timeline.

It is the call Nevill made to PC WEST that Taff wouuld have shown to the relatives Steve.

[Steve_uk]

Well I don't agree with Adam on this, at close range the rifle was lethal, JB could have committed the crime with just five shots, but this would have looked suspicious. He could have used nine or ten shots and I don't think anyone would have questioned this?

He was high on drugs at the time, just as David Bain was in one of his manufactured trances enabled by his mother's tutelage on the subject. He would later tell Julie he had had a "mental blank", which is as good a description as any to depict the circumstances of the carnage inflicted that night.

[Rob_]

Yes an 11 shot massacre would have looked very clinical & proficient.

Then again having to reload twice did him no favours.

Suspect he felt either way would not be a problem. Unless the police start digging.

No a four shot massacre and a suicide using 5 shots would look very clinical, 9 or ten shots into sleeping victims not so.

[Adam]

Yes an 11 shot massacre would have looked very clinical & proficient.

Then again having to reload twice did him no favours.

Suspect he felt either way would not be a problem. Unless the police start digging.

Bamber of course primed the police outside to not be surprised at reloads. Telling them Sheila knew how to use all the weapons inside WHF.

Later retracting.

[Steve_uk]

It is the call Nevill made to PC WEST that Taff wouuld have shown to the relatives Steve.

But there was no reason to cover up that call at that stage. Why go for an interrogation of Jeremy Bamber on Sunday 8th September, when a call Taff knew about would confirm his initial suspicion that the whole episode at White House Farm had been "a domestic"?

[Adam]

No a four shot massacre and a suicide using 5 shots would look very clinical, 9 or ten shots into sleeping victims not so.

The massacre couldn't be completed in 5 shots.

He may have gone for an 11 shot massacre but didn't make it.

[Rob_]

Bamber of course primed the police outside to not be surprised at reloads. Telling them Sheila knew how to use all the weapons inside WHF.

Later retracting.

Would the police not assume that anyway? A farmers girl living on a farm all her life.

[Rob_]

The massacre couldn't be completed in 5 shots.

He may have gone for an 11 shot massacre but didn't make it.

Why not five shots?

[ILB]

Not twisting anything. Just quoted Wilkes book.

As posted earlier, Bamber was in a bad place regarding the wills.

Why was he

[Adam]

Why was he

Read my.posts on it. Posted today on this thread.

[ILB]

He was high on drugs at the time, just as David Bain was in one of his manufactured trances enabled by his mother's tutelage on the subject. He would later tell Julie he had had a "mental blank", which is as good a description as any to depict the circumstances of the carnage inflicted that night.

No he wasn't high on drugs. None of the police officers in his company not long after the massacre can attest to this. He had just hours previously completed a full days work at the farm as well

[Steve_uk]

Bamber of course primed the police outside to not be surprised at reloads. Telling them Sheila knew how to use all the weapons inside WHF.

Later retracting.

A good point Adam. Jeremy had thought about police reaction in advance, also disseminating the lie that his sister had recently indulged in target practice. He had also attempted to work his charm on Ann Eaton, with dispiriting results.