Could Livor Mortis Help Prove Jeremy Bamber is innocent

[Rob_]

Well,for a JB scenario they had to die about the same time Rob.Yet no evidence exists to prove this,if there was,it would have shut up the innocence brigade years ago when they started claiming Sheila died much later than the others.That means any documentation regarding time of death MUST indeed point to Sheila dying long after the others.What other reason could there be for witholding the morgue photos.Surely the guilters must see that withholding photos and destroying evidence is very suspicious indeed,and must cause doubt about Bambers guilt.

Well at the moment Snow I have no doubt, perhaps if Adam can buck his ideas up he might introduce some doubt we will see 

[Adam]

Well at the moment Snow I have no doubt, perhaps if Adam can buck his ideas up he might introduce some doubt we will see 

Is 75 pieces of COA forensic evidence not enough?

A straight forward Bamber scenario has also been supplied. Matching the crime scene evidence.

[Rob_]

Is 75 pieces of COA forensic evidence not enough?

A straight forward Bamber scenario has also been supplied. Matching the crime scene evidence.

But it's not a straight forward Bamber scenario Adam, he was undertaking a extremely risky crime and carried it out in such a way that the police only had two possible suspects and he was one of them.

A Sheila scenario is simple, only one question: could she have loaded the magazine? I think she could.

[snow66!]

But it's not a straight forward Bamber scenario Adam, he was undertaking a extremely risky crime and carried it out in such a way that the police only had two possible suspects and he was one of them.

A Sheila scenario is simple, only one question: could she have loaded the magazine? I think she could.

Or possibly used two different rifles Rob.

[snow66!]

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Whats the question mark for Adam,do you mean Bamber has got the morgue photos?

[Rob_]

Whats the question mark for Adam,do you mean Bamber has got the morgue photos?

I am not sure Snow but Adam always claims that nothing is withheld! he must be referring to another case!

[Rob_]

Or possibly used two different rifles Rob.

Maybe Snow but the magazine is easy to load if you don't fully load it say seven or eight bullets.

[snow66!]

I am not sure Snow but Adam always claims that nothing is withheld! he must be referring to another case!

Well,Yvonne and the team were petitioning Essex Police last year for full disclosure Rob,as you know.

[snow66!]

Maybe Snow but the magazine is easy to load if you don't fully load it say seven or eight bullets.

I must admit,i have absolutely no knowledge of rifles with magazines at all Rob,or how easy they are to load or operate,ie safety catches etc.

[Rob_]

I must admit,i have absolutely no knowledge of rifles with magazines at all Rob,or how easy they are to load or operate,ie safety catches etc.

The rifle was low powered little kick back so easy to use, I have seen videos claiming a child could use the
anshutz rifle used in the killings.

[snow66!]

The rifle was low powered little kick back so easy to use, I have seen videos claiming a child could use the
anshutz rifle used in the killings.

But was it easy to work out how to use it with no prior knowledge Rob?

[Rob_]

But was it easy to work out how to use it with no prior knowledge Rob?

She had lived on a farm most of her life she would have seen guns being used many times, so I think she would have known how they work.

[snow66!]

She had lived on a farm most of her life she would have seen guns being used many times, so I think she would have known how they work.

Yes probably Rob,and i dont think it would take a genius to work out how to use it anyway.I wouldn't mind handling one to evaluate this.

[snow66!]

Quote from Roger Wilkes book'Blood Relations' page 27-------What struck Stan Jones in particular was the marble whiteness of Sheila's arms and legs.-------Sounds more like pallor mortis than livor mortis.Definately no mention of bright red or purple legs/arms from Stan anyway.

[snow66!]

Dr Ian Craig had 27yrs experience as a POLICE SURGEON.Yet could only tell the court that the victims died at sometime the night before.