Bamber controlling a fully fit Sheila.

[Jane]

Yes i fully understand that Jane.The fact that she wasnt taking them orally means she was not a good guide of herself,along with taking illegal drugs like cocaine,she wasnt helping to keep her psychosis at bay.

Totally agree, but she tested negative for noxious substances at the time of her death. There was one "slight positive" but not within the noxious group.

[snow66!]

There were no fields to cycle through.

Bamber stole June's bike just before the massacre so he could cycle to/from WHF.

He got the bike for Julies use Adam

[snow66!]

Totally agree, but she tested negative for noxious substances at the time of her death. There was one "slight positive" but not within the noxious group.

Fair enough Jane,but on the whole Sheila was her own worst enemy regarding her health.She knew the procyclidene tablets were to be taken for the tiredness the Haloperidol was causing,but asked to have the Haloperidol reduced instead.We are told she was a caring mother,but a caring mother would have done her best to conform with the Doctors to get her mind as stable as possible.It was no use getting into a mess then crying her eyes out because she could not have the children much of the time.As you know,she was smoking drugs the day after being discharged after her second breakdown,and speaking of white witches and evil again.Dr Ferguson said she was a difficult patient to treat,that can only mean it was going to be an uphill job to keep her illness at bay.

[Adam]

He got the bike for Julies use Adam

So she could cycle to the station when going home.

You know that is not the case. Or what Julie said.

[snow66!]

So she could cycle to the station when going home.

You know that is not the case. Or what Julie said.

Well it all depends who was lying their head off Adam.

[Bubo bubo]

Well it all depends who was lying their head off Adam.

I think if you check the bike was to be used to go to a bus stop, (Osborne's)  which went to the station.

[snow66!]

I think if you check the bike was to be used to go to a bus stop, (Osborne's)  which went to the station.

Not according to Adam,Bubo.

[Bubo bubo]

Not according to Adam,Bubo.

Oh I forgot Adam is the fount of knowledge on all things WHF. I do not know why you bother to engage with this waste of time and energy that is Adam. I have long since had him on ignore. He is a Troll who has nothing better to do with his life.

[snow66!]

Oh I forgot Adam is the fount of knowledge on all things WHF. I do not know why you bother to engage with this waste of time and energy that is Adam. I have long since had him on ignore. He is a Troll who has nothing better to do with his life.

Well i may be stupid and childish Bubo,but i treat everyone on this forum as a friend.Besides arguing and falling out with anyone here wont help or hinder JB in anyway whatsoever,but thats just my view.

[Bubo bubo]

Well i may be stupid and childish Bubo,but i treat everyone on this forum as a friend.Besides arguing and falling out with anyone here wont help or hinder JB in anyway whatsoever,but thats just my view.

Your choice. I consider his whole approach is making a mockery of a very sad situation. A man may have had his life taken from him by a possibly corrupt process. It should be taken more seriously and  not used a playground for him to parade his warped attitude. Anyone who has studied this forum for any length of time will know he is taking the Pxxx.
Posters who play along and want to be his friend are doing JB no favours. I realise the forum is hardly read by millions but those that show any curiosity are potentially misled by this waste of space.

[snow66!]

Your choice. I consider his whole approach is making a mockery of a very sad situation. A man may have had his life taken from him by a possibly corrupt process. It should be taken more seriously and  not used a playground for him to parade his warped attitude. Anyone who has studied this forum for any length of time will know he is taking the Pxxx.
Posters who play along and want to be his friend are doing JB no favours. I realise the forum is hardly read by millions but those that show any curiosity are potentially misled by this waste of space.

Hi Bubo.Well its quite hard to give an answer that will please you.There are many ways of looking at things,and remember we do not know yet if JB is innocent or not.I suppose the general public just take it for granted he is guilty and call him all the names under the sun.Adam,like many others has firmly decided that JB is guilty,but simply argues that the evidence as he calls it proves this,in his mind anyway.He dosent just insult JB and call him names.As for using this forum as a playground and not treating the subject seriously,i am afraid i myself am one of the worst members in that respect.I sit and think up ridiculous stories with a smile on my face,hoping i may amuse someone.I dont know if JB would see any sarcasm or frivolity as offensive or if he would take it as a bit of light relief,hopefully the latter.As i have said before i mean no harm or disrespect to anyone on this forum or JB.So thats about all i can say Bubo,and hopefully in the near future we may see some developements that prove one way or another what the truth is regarding JB,then we wont have to argue or fallout anymore.Hope you will think about what i have said Bubo,and hopefully see where i am coming from.

[Steve_uk]

Your choice. I consider his whole approach is making a mockery of a very sad situation. A man may have had his life taken from him by a possibly corrupt process. It should be taken more seriously and  not used a playground for him to parade his warped attitude. Anyone who has studied this forum for any length of time will know he is taking the Pxxx.
Posters who play along and want to be his friend are doing JB no favours. I realise the forum is hardly read by millions but those that show any curiosity are potentially misled by this waste of space.

Everyone has different posting styles. He's not rude to members, which is why I don't object.

[Bubo bubo]

Hi Bubo.Well its quite hard to give an answer that will please you.There are many ways of looking at things,and remember we do not know yet if JB is innocent or not.I suppose the general public just take it for granted he is guilty and call him all the names under the sun.Adam,like many others has firmly decided that JB is guilty,but simply argues that the evidence as he calls it proves this,in his mind anyway.He dosent just insult JB and call him names.As for using this forum as a playground and not treating the subject seriously,i am afraid i myself am one of the worst members in that respect.I sit and think up ridiculous stories with a smile on my face,hoping i may amuse someone.I dont know if JB would see any sarcasm or frivolity as offensive or if he would take it as a bit of light relief,hopefully the latter.As i have said before i mean no harm or disrespect to anyone on this forum or JB.So thats about all i can say Bubo,and hopefully in the near future we may see some developements that prove one way or another what the truth is regarding JB,then we wont have to argue or fallout anymore.Hope you will think about what i have said Bubo,and hopefully see where i am coming from.

I have no problems with a bit of frivolity to amuse and lighten the mood, I do so myself. I have not fallen out with Adam I just ignore his repetitive regurgitation of virtually the same posts over and over again. He has 'crafted' a posting style which obeys forum rules without giving offence and spouts the same arguments over and over. I believe some people get drawn into his web and foster further opportunities for him to play what I see as 'games'. Far be it from me to suggest how you use your time. I do understand the point you make and I hope you understand mine.

[snow66!]

I have no problems with a bit of frivolity to amuse and lighten the mood, I do so myself. I have not fallen out with Adam I just ignore his repetitive regurgitation of virtually the same posts over and over again. He has 'crafted' a posting style which obeys forum rules without giving offence and spouts the same arguments over and over. I believe some people get drawn into his web and foster further opportunities for him to play what I see as 'games'. Far be it from me to suggest how you use your time. I do understand the point you make and I hope you understand mine.

Hi Bubo,of course i understand what you are saying about Adam simply repeating the same things over and over again.Others have noticed this also.But,like yourself i tend to answer only if there is something new to discuss.But as i say,Adams posts dont bother me personaly,and at times he can actually draw out the best in you during an argument.And as Steve says he is seldom rude,So thats about it Bubo,i hope you dont get too distressed with Adams posting style.

[guest29835]

Everyone has different posting styles. He's not rude to members, which is why I don't object.

You do not speak the truth.  He is rude.  Very often.

Hi Bubo,of course i understand what you are saying about Adam simply repeating the same things over and over again.Others have noticed this also.But,like yourself i tend to answer only if there is something new to discuss.But as i say,Adams posts dont bother me personaly,and at times he can actually draw out the best in you during an argument.And as Steve says he is seldom rude,So thats about it Bubo,i hope you dont get too distressed with Adams posting style.

That part [in bold] is not true.  I agree with much of the rest of what you say and I don't wish to prolong this topic, but it's important that the truth is spoken, as Bubu bubu has done.

We should draw a line under this now.