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« Reply #330 on: February 28, 2022, 02:04:PM »
What does Vanezis say in his notes about Junes state of rigor mortis on 7/09/85,i cant read much of his writing.

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« Reply #331 on: February 28, 2022, 03:01:PM »
I see from his statements,Vanezis writes down the time as 3.30.Is this when he started the autopsies,or the time he finished.Apparently rigor mortice sets in between 2-4 hours on average,and rigor mortis is WELL established in 12 hrs.If he didnt start the examinations before 3.30,by the time he got through all the victims,rigor mortis would have been well established in all of them,even if some died after 3.30 the night before.So stating rigor mortis was well established on all the victems would be fact and dosent mean anything one way or another.Therefore the only evidence of when the victems died must come from the Doctor who pronounced death at the scene.I cant find the statement from this person in the archive.Can someone remind me who the Doctor was,and where his statement is?

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« Reply #332 on: February 28, 2022, 04:08:PM »
Found it,Ian Donaldson Craig.Very basic statement.Seems to know a 22 rifle just by looking at it,strange overall statement,probably written at a much later date by the look of it.

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« Reply #333 on: February 28, 2022, 09:19:PM »
Hello everyone,members,guests and anyone else browsing the forum.The Jeremy Bamber discussion seems to have been abandoned at the moment,the current war in Europe seems to be of more interest to most membersSo i am afraid i will have to take the oppertunity to tell a short story from my past.I work in the building trade,and one of the guys who worked in the same squad only ever had sardine sandwiches and a small half litre flask of tea in his lunch bag every day.By tea break in the afternoon he had no tea left,and just the heel or end piece of a loaf left.Dry bread again he would exclaim.I would often give him a biscuit and some of my tea,but the trouble was he liked strong black tea.My tea was weaker and had milk in it,so he called it gnats piss,theres gratitude for you.But i still continued to give him some,and he always took it.The same guy used to roll his own cigarettes,but he used so little tobacco in them the papers went up in a blaze when lit.He was left with very little of his cigarette to smoke.I think he was a bit mean.He often used to say-three score and ten,that will do me- referring to the Bible.I often wonder if hes still alive,he must be over 80 by now.Oh well they were happy times.Hope i havent bored you too much,bye for now.

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« Reply #334 on: February 28, 2022, 09:35:PM »
Nice story Snow, several times now I have thought you quite religious?

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« Reply #335 on: February 28, 2022, 10:06:PM »
Nice story Snow, several times now I have thought you quite religious?
It was my work mate who was quoting the Bible Rob,not me.As for myself,i would not say i am religious as far as praying to a so called God goes,but i do believe we are going somewhere when we pass away.As far as i am concerned you have to believe that,or life is pointless.And believe it or not i have some proof.Anyway ,now you have mentioned religion,i may have to give a rant about that too,if interest in the war in Ukraine keeps members interested elsewhere on the forum.

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« Reply #336 on: February 28, 2022, 10:39:PM »
Interesting Snow, if you believe we go somewhere when we pass that's religious to me anyway. Myself I cannot see how life can get going, the simplest life form is thought to need 250000 bases of DNA. I think life had a helping hand!

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« Reply #337 on: February 28, 2022, 11:57:PM »
Interesting Snow, if you believe we go somewhere when we pass that's religious to me anyway. Myself I cannot see how life can get going, the simplest life form is thought to need 250000 bases of DNA. I think life had a helping hand!
Of course life got a helping hand Rob.It all started with the so called big bang.As i always say to people,how did the big bang know what it would need to form a universe and planets,and once planets and life appeared,where did thought appear from.Is thought and perception formed from DNA, Anyway if everything came out of the big bang,thought was in there at the beginning too,waiting to be formed millions of years later.I wonder where and when the first logical thought was formed.Was this in some ancient animal once DNA had created a brain.I think somesort of intelligence new what materials were needed to form the universe ,then initiated the big bang.Another thing,remember we are spinning round the sun,and nothing can survive on this planet without its heat and light.I would like to think some form of intelligence is maintaining this orbit for us.For me it is too precarious a situation to be maintained without a little help and intervention.On the other hand many believe everything happened by chance,and when we die we are just food for the worms.That is fair enough,have that view if you wish.But it makes it a lot harder when your time comes.Anyway if you think things through ,i think the only conclusion is things simply could not have happened by chance.Oh well thats a quick rant about the entire cosmos and creation,hope i havent disturbed anyone,blame Rob it was him that got me started.Bye.

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« Reply #338 on: March 01, 2022, 01:54:PM »
Good day everyone,back to the bloodied photo of Sheila.Has anything ever come to light suggesting Sheila may have attempted to hang herself before using the rifle.I mean what IS that round her neck.It looks more like a length of yellow rope or possibly a fancy ladies belt of some sort.And the object holding the two ends together looks too large for a normal necklace clasp.It looks more like a coat hook or something.Could it be possible,Sheila attached a belt or rope to a hook of some kind in the wardrobe.But then her weight instantly pulled the hook off before the rope caused any mark around her neck.So then she was forced to turn the gun on herself instead.There is definatelly something round her neck,so if it isnt a necklace or object to harm herself,it must be something the police applied or the Doctor at the morgue.Do the police use any device to seal the plastic sheets victims are wrapped in?Anyway,someone must know what the object is and its purpose.

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« Reply #339 on: March 01, 2022, 04:09:PM »
Good day everyone,back to the bloodied photo of Sheila.Has anything ever come to light suggesting Sheila may have attempted to hang herself before using the rifle.I mean what IS that round her neck.It looks more like a length of yellow rope or possibly a fancy ladies belt of some sort.And the object holding the two ends together looks too large for a normal necklace clasp.It looks more like a coat hook or something.Could it be possible,Sheila attached a belt or rope to a hook of some kind in the wardrobe.But then her weight instantly pulled the hook off before the rope caused any mark around her neck.So then she was forced to turn the gun on herself instead.There is definatelly something round her neck,so if it isnt a necklace or object to harm herself,it must be something the police applied or the Doctor at the morgue.Do the police use any device to seal the plastic sheets victims are wrapped in?Anyway,someone must know what the object is and its purpose.
No replies to my suggestion.The members are all discussing the war and covid 19 today.Oh well i will just have to post another irrelevant post later on.Then the moderators will ban me for talking more nonsense that has nothing to do with the JB case.The hero members will cheer and say-thank god that lunatic is gone.Yes,they will all agree,what a moronic fool,but we showed him.We sent him to Coventry for his impertinent ludicrous posts.Then the news will break that Snow has suddenly dropped dead,brought on by lonliness after being banned from an online discussion site.The mood will then change,-what a great guy he was-the members will exclaim.Yes his posts were like poetry they will agree.Adam will post a tribute saying-i miss Snow so much,what a terrific guy he was=the tears rolling down his cheeks.Farewell dear friend he will anounce.The members will start a tribute topic entitled-Snow,the website Bard-and his posts will be studied and the meanings of them discussed by generations to come.Oh well,hope somebody replies soon.OR ELSE.Ha ha. bye

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« Reply #340 on: March 01, 2022, 07:52:PM »
What does Vanezis say in his notes about Junes state of rigor mortis on 7/09/85,i cant read much of his writing.
I see June and the boys were not examined till 8/09/85

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« Reply #341 on: March 01, 2022, 08:00:PM »
No replies to my suggestion.The members are all discussing the war and covid 19 today.Oh well i will just have to post another irrelevant post later on.Then the moderators will ban me for talking more nonsense that has nothing to do with the JB case.The hero members will cheer and say-thank god that lunatic is gone.Yes,they will all agree,what a moronic fool,but we showed him.We sent him to Coventry for his impertinent ludicrous posts.Then the news will break that Snow has suddenly dropped dead,brought on by lonliness after being banned from an online discussion site.The mood will then change,-what a great guy he was-the members will exclaim.Yes his posts were like poetry they will agree.Adam will post a tribute saying-i miss Snow so much,what a terrific guy he was=the tears rolling down his cheeks.Farewell dear friend he will anounce.The members will start a tribute topic entitled-Snow,the website Bard-and his posts will be studied and the meanings of them discussed by generations to come.Oh well,hope somebody replies soon.OR ELSE.Ha ha. bye
Do not worry Snow I am following what you say. It does look a bit like a belt. Part of the fire debris (DB2) contained pieces of scarf. There is something there that is not the chain or nightdress.

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« Reply #342 on: March 01, 2022, 08:24:PM »
I have had a look in Photoshop, it might be a tag or label on a piece of string?

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« Reply #343 on: March 01, 2022, 09:14:PM »
Do not worry Snow I am following what you say. It does look a bit like a belt. Part of the fire debris (DB2) contained pieces of scarf. There is something there that is not the chain or nightdress.
Thanks Bubo,yes of course there is something round her neck.That should be obvious to all.If there is no record of it,you are probably right in the assumption it was destroyed.Very suspicious to say the least.

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« Reply #344 on: March 01, 2022, 09:17:PM »
I have had a look in Photoshop, it might be a tag or label on a piece of string?
Thanks Rob.So you think the white object with the holes in it is a tag,and is attached to yellow string round her neck.