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jodis size.
« on: February 05, 2022, 03:28:PM »
joi was big for a girl of her age he oul an fight back as the pathology report shows

so what does that ay about the size an strenth of the killer.

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Re: jodis size.
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2022, 05:29:PM »
I heard that Jodi stood about 5ft 7 tall and of thin build and Luke stood around 5ft 4/5ft 5 tall and medium build. However, boys are invariably a lot stronger than girls, regardless of height. Luke’s ex-girlfriend Karen Van Nuil, who was 3 years older than Luke, commented about just how strong he was. Here’s an old article from the daily mail in 2005:

Byline: GRACE MCLEAN

A TEENAGER last night told how killer Luke Mitchell held a knife to her throat just a month before he killed and mutilated girlfriend Jodi Jones.

Mitchell, then only 14 years old, pulled on a balaclava, grabbed Kara van Nuil from behind and warned her not to move as he pressed the blade to her neck.

Last night she said: 'I was absolutely terrified. He was so strong. I didn't hear him coming. He just came up behind me, grabbed me around the neck with one arm and held the knife with the other.

'He told me: "Move and you are f***ing dead".' Miss van Nuil, now 17, met Mitchell at the Army Cadet HQ in Bonnyrigg, Midlothian, when she joined his cadet unit in February, 2002.

They started dating a few weeks later, even though Mitchell was already going out with Jodi and seeing another girl, Kimberley Thomson, in Perthshire.

Miss van Nuil told how she was at first mesmerised by Mitchell and how he wooed her with romantic text messages.

But she brought the relationship to an end after he followed her into the cadet hut one night and threatened her with the knife. She told the Scottish Daily Mail: 'He used to wear a balaclava and pull it up over his head like a hat.

'We were at cadets in May when I went into the hut on my own. The instructors were out having a cigarette with the other cadets. I was messing about with the blackboard and I didn't hear Luke coming but there was suddenly an arm around my neck.

'I got a glimpse of him as I looked back and he had pulled his balaclava over his face. He then put a knife to my throat and said I would be dead if I moved an inch.

'I was really scared and couldn't move.

He was so strong. I couldn't move my arms but I kept nipping his knees with my fingernails and begging him to let me go. He kept me like that for about a minute.

'When he put the knife down I turned to face him and he said, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry." He tried to pretend it was a joke but my neck was red and I was genuinely scared. I was crying my eyes out.' Mitchell never returned to cadets after the attack. A month later he strangled 14-year- old Jodi and cut her throat.

Miss van Nuil regrets not telling her parents Angela, 39, and Bill, 55, about the attack until after the murder.

She said: 'I never knew Jodi but when I found out Luke was her boyfriend I knew straight away that he had done it. I told my dad what happened in the cadet hut and he called the police.

'They came around and took hours of statements but I was never called to court.

'I'm so relieved - I couldn't have faced him in the court. I'm so sorry for what happened to Jodi. When it first happened, I used to feel such guilt and think "that could have been me".' Miss van Nuil, of Gorebridge, Midlothian, said: 'We never met anywhere but cadets, so I only saw him on Monday and Wednesday nights - I suppose because he was going out with Jodi.

'One of my friends said he had five girls on the go but I didn't care because I was crazy about him. He was so polite. I suspected he might have been a bit of a geek. But he always sent me lovely text messages.' But Miss van Nuil said she also saw flashes of his temper: 'One time he was on the shooting range and got told off by one of the instructors. All of a sudden he shouted something, threw down his gun and stormed off.

'There were other times, too. If someone so much as criticised him, he would lose his temper and shout and swear at them.' After the knife attack, she dumped Mitchell. But two days after he was first questioned about Jodi's murder, Miss van Nuil saw him walking down her street. She said: 'I was looking out the window. He was parading around like a cockerel. His friends all came out and started hugging him as if he was a hero.

'I was terrified. I hid behind the curtain, shaking, and hoped he would not see me.' Last night Miss Van Nuil broke down in tears on hearing the verdict.

'I'm just so happy,' she said. 'It's been a long wait and now it's all over.

I feel that I can finally rest easy.' Her mother, Angela, added: 'We're relieved that justice has been done for Jodi and pleased because we knew all along that he had done this.' It has emerged that at least one other girl also suffered a terrifying ordeal at Mitchell's hands.

The girl, who was just 11 at the time, was visiting Mitchell's father Philip, a family friend.

Mitchell, who was only 12, was also staying in the house in Livingston and the two youngsters were sharing a twin bedroom.

In the middle of the night, he climbed on top of her, held a knife to her throat and demanded she kiss him. Last night she said: 'I just can't tell you how I feel about the verdict.'


g.mclean@dailymail.co.uk


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Re: jodis size.
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2022, 05:31:PM »
yes thats corret she was 5 feet 7 he wasafaiir bigger than luke.

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Re: jodis size.
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2022, 10:14:PM »
AB star witness description of the couple , she did not describe a female who was taller than the male, that sort of thing is noticeable normally Males are taller (not always I know), she described the male as average height and build for a young man in his 20's, Luke was 5ft 4 thin and a 14 year old , 5ft 4 is not average height for an adult male. That aside she did not see either of their faces, she also stated the female had dark hair , just a small point but females no the difference in hair colour , Jodi had auburn hair these small details are important and clearly point to serious discrepancies, this is probably the reason the lady could not pick Luke out in court , she did not see his face and would not lie even if thats what everybody expected of her, she is one of the people that I commend for telling the truth at this trial. On the appeal 2011 I believe the appeal judges agreed this point (one of the main pillars ) is an area that could be argued , end of story with this .  Its a pity they did not follow up on the 2 separate witness who described Jodi (one of these witnesses knew Jodi) being closely followed by a male of stocky build. 
Daily Mail Report on this sighting and the importance DI Martin put to it in the early days, sadly confirmation bias set in and they abandoned this to focus more on the 14 year Luke
 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-188716/Witness-saw-man-Jodi.html#:~:text=Witness%20%27saw%20man,the%20Morris%20Club.
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