Time for the lie detector

[Roch]

One thing's for certain, you'll never see the likes of Mick Ainsley, Julie Mugford or Ann Eaton volunteering to take one.

But having said that, I wouldn't take one either.

[lilly15]

According to an American polygraph expert they are easy to cheat if you know how.

People who have taken them in prison wouldn't have that info and as I've said if it was so easy why do so many fail?

Maybe someone should try one and tell everyone how they got on. They may be quite surprised

[innocent]

The eye detector test does enable examiner to show how difficult it is to pass it. People should take it and see how hard it is before jumping to conclusions. The test isn't so simple and I passed the more modern one, that is more reliable than the other test. So check out first before rubbish ing findings

[snow66!]

Hello Armchair Detective,how do you do.Isnt it worth trying anything to get some closure.Although i know where your coming from,like Adam ,as far as you are concerned justice has been done,JBis 100 percent guilty,therefore there is nothing left to investigate.That is completely acceptable,but you must understand by now others dont agree and will continue in their efforts to expose the hidden truth as they see it.I am in the middle waiting for what i see as conclusive evidence one way or another.

[snow66!]

Oh well,so much for that thread getting anywhere.Incidentaly why do most guilters dismiss lie detectors and the pro innocent think it is a worthwhile idea.What does this say.

[Armchair Detective]

Hello Armchair Detective,how do you do.Isnt it worth trying anything to get some closure.Although i know where your coming from,like Adam ,as far as you are concerned justice has been done,JBis 100 percent guilty,therefore there is nothing left to investigate.That is completely acceptable,but you must understand by now others dont agree and will continue in their efforts to expose the hidden truth as they see it.I am in the middle waiting for what i see as conclusive evidence one way or another.

A polygraph is only likely to further muddy the waters rather than provide any clarity and nobody is going to voluntarily submit to one because a handful of cranks on the internet have some conspiracy theories.

Oh well,so much for that thread getting anywhere.Incidentaly why do most guilters dismiss lie detectors and the pro innocent think it is a worthwhile idea.What does this say.

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[Jane]

Hello Lookout ,hello Jane,pleased to meet you both.As i have said ,i do not know if JB is guilty or not ,So Lookout is at one side ,Jane is at the other ,and i am slap bang in the middle.That is why i am suggesting the lie detector,it seems to me things are at a stand still.You still have people on this forum who are 100 percent for JBs guilt and those for 100 percent innocent,and that is after more than 10years now.I know what you are saying Jane,the trial is long past and you think everyone involved should be left in peace,And that is absolutely fair,indeed it is their absolute legal right to do so.But what Lookout and myself are saying,is,if we were one of the star witnesses being accused of lying and being dragged through the dirt on forums like this and many youtube videos,we would do anything possible to prove we didnt lie and send an innocent man to jail for the rest of his natural life.Anyway,hope the cats are doing fine Lookout ,dont give them too much dreamies or they wont eat anything else.

Hello back, Snow 66! If I had been a 'star' witness in a trial, many years previous, feeling how I do about stress detectors, I'm damned if I'd go out of my way to satisfy Jo Public's curiosity. As we only know the test JB passed -the results should have remained confidential, by the way- we don't know about any he might have failed, do we?

[lilly15]

Hello back, Snow 66! If I had been a 'star' witness in a trial, many years previous, feeling how I do about stress detectors, I'm damned if I'd go out of my way to satisfy Jo Public's curiosity. As we only know the test JB passed -the results should have remained confidential, by the way- we don't know about any he might have failed, do we?

Terry Mullins takes great pride in his work and he wouldnt stand by a result that showed deceit.

It's hard work getting in to prisons to do these tests and he sure would not have got a second chance to do it.

Even if that was so a 'source' would have made the fact known long before now

[Armchair Detective]

Hello back, Snow 66! If I had been a 'star' witness in a trial, many years previous, feeling how I do about stress detectors, I'm damned if I'd go out of my way to satisfy Jo Public's curiosity. As we only know the test JB passed -the results should have remained confidential, by the way- we don't know about any he might have failed, do we?

To my mind, it was obviously a stunt. How much stress do you think Bamber feels after 30 odd years of denial anyway?

[Jane]

Terry Mullins takes great pride in his work and he wouldnt stand by a result that showed deceit.

It's hard work getting in to prisons to do these tests and he sure would not have got a second chance to do it.

Even if that was so a 'source' would have made the fact known long before now

The test was organized by JB's team. The results should have been confidential. Terry Mullins, rather like the people who do xrays, is a technician who reads results. JB, already convicted wasn't under pressure to prove anything. The Green River killer, Garry Ridgway, passed a polygraph test, as did Ted Bundy. Reliable? Don't think so.

[Jane]

To my mind, it was obviously a stunt. How much stress do you think Bamber feels after 30 odd years of denial anyway?

I imagine he's well practiced in relaxation methods. All those freebie classes!!!

[lilly15]

The test was organized by JB's team. The results should have been confidential. Terry Mullins, rather like the people who do xrays, is a technician who reads results. JB, already convicted wasn't under pressure to prove anything. The Green River killer, Garry Ridgway, passed a polygraph test, as did Ted Bundy. Reliable? Don't think so.

As with two other famous cases Terry isn't responsible for releasing the results.

Why should it stay confidential? Jeremy knew it would help his case.

No way would Terry Mullins stand by and pretend anything that didn't happen only to be exposed by a voice from a high security prison saying otherwise

That would damage his reputation.

[lilly15]

I imagine he's well practiced in relaxation methods. All those freebie classes!!!

So if it's plain sailing to sit and be relaxed  why doesn't everyone pass it?

Another case where a murderer took the test and failed then confessed? it wasn't as easy as he thought either

[innocent]

The test isn't as simple as people assume.only four people have passed from what I now. see Beside getting it done in high security prison would be under a time frame, and not get multiple opportunity to do it.Can not fathom why so sceptical of this more upto date test. My be if you did it yourselves understand rather than be so derogatory

[lilly15]

The test isn't as simple as people assume.only four people have passed from what I now. see Beside getting it done in high security prison would be under a time frame, and not get multiple opportunity to do it.Can not fathom why so sceptical of this more upto date test. My be if you did it yourselves understand rather than be so derogatory

Spot on.